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The p53 Tumor Suppressor Pathway

April 09, 2021
  • 00:00Of hosting today and we are incredibly
  • 00:04thrilled and delighted that we
  • 00:06were able to induce Doctor Gigi
  • 00:09Lissonota to be our speaker today.
  • 00:12Doctor Lozano graduated from Pan
  • 00:14American University in Texas,
  • 00:16did some work at Oakridge Laboratories,
  • 00:19got her PhD at Rutgers,
  • 00:22and then went to Princeton,
  • 00:24where she was a postdoc with Arnie Levine.
  • 00:28Immediately following that,
  • 00:29she was recruited to MD Anderson,
  • 00:32and in her long tenure there she has done.
  • 00:38Path breaking work on P53.
  • 00:41She's recognized for enormous contributions
  • 00:43that include the recognition that P.
  • 00:4653 works as a transcriptional activator.
  • 00:49Many, many findings regarding the ways
  • 00:52that MDM two and MDM three regulate P 53.
  • 00:57Extensive use of transgenic models
  • 00:59to understand these mechanisms.
  • 01:01Better definition of specific P53
  • 01:04loss and gain of function mutations
  • 01:07and and their effects on P53's
  • 01:10biology as well as studies of
  • 01:14the P53 transcriptional program.
  • 01:16She's a member of the National Academy
  • 01:18of Sciences and the National Academy
  • 01:20of Medicine and at MD Anderson.
  • 01:23She is now chair of the Department
  • 01:25of Genetics and Hubert L.
  • 01:27Olive Stringer,
  • 01:28distinguished chair in oncology.
  • 01:30In the division of Basic Science
  • 01:32Research at MD Anderson,
  • 01:34so I don't want to talk for a long
  • 01:36time because I'm really eager
  • 01:38to hear what you have to say.
  • 01:40So thank you very much for joining us
  • 01:43and I will just say to the audience.
  • 01:45You can use the chat function to
  • 01:48enter your questions or we can.
  • 01:49I believe we can unmute people
  • 01:51at the end if we need to.
  • 01:54So with that do welcome.
  • 01:56Thank you, thank you very much,
  • 01:59Barbara. For that introduction I
  • 02:01hopefully now I'm sharing my screen.
  • 02:07Can you see it?
  • 02:10Weekend OK super Alright so
  • 02:12anyway thank you Barbara.
  • 02:14It's it's fun to always visit a place
  • 02:17and now during covid we're doing these
  • 02:19virtual seminars but hopefully at the
  • 02:22end I'll be able to address some of
  • 02:25the questions that people might have.
  • 02:27What I thought I would do today is
  • 02:30described some of the models that
  • 02:32I think have to find some of the
  • 02:35basic real basic understanding of
  • 02:37the P53 tumor suppressor pathway.
  • 02:39So I'll get started with my disclosures.
  • 02:42I am on the Scientific Advisory
  • 02:45Board for PMV Pharma.
  • 02:47So the P 53 pathway.
  • 02:49This is my myopic view of the pathway
  • 02:51and it really highlights.
  • 02:54I think some of the critical
  • 02:56features of the pathway.
  • 02:58First and foremost people decree is present
  • 03:01in very low levels in normal cells,
  • 03:03but any kind of abnormality
  • 03:06that the South senses,
  • 03:07hypoxia, DNA damage,
  • 03:09inappropriate activation of an
  • 03:11oncogene will stabilize that
  • 03:12P53 protein and then P53 in turn
  • 03:15functions as a transcription factor.
  • 03:17To activate hundreds of genes
  • 03:19and I'll show you some of those
  • 03:22experiments in in a little bit,
  • 03:24but some of the genes that P.
  • 03:2653 is known to activate is P21 for example,
  • 03:30which is a inhibitor of the South cycle.
  • 03:33It also induces senescence program
  • 03:35P53 can activate a slew of gene sick,
  • 03:38initiate a pop ptosis and it also activates.
  • 03:41Genes are involved in changing
  • 03:43the metabolic functions of a cell.
  • 03:47Now when P 53 is activated,
  • 03:49if the cell is allowed to survive
  • 03:52and proceed,
  • 03:53P53 has to activate this protein
  • 03:56called MDM 2,
  • 03:57which is an E3 ubiquitin ligase
  • 04:00that targets P53 for degradation
  • 04:02and basically removes the Peachtree
  • 04:04levels back down to normal.
  • 04:07So if you just.
  • 04:09Think about what people think we can do.
  • 04:11We can do so much in getting arrested,
  • 04:14phallic it, killed itself,
  • 04:15and it can also induce its own
  • 04:18inhibitor to allow the cell to survive.
  • 04:21And even though there's so much
  • 04:22work in the pizza tree killed,
  • 04:25we still don't understand all of the
  • 04:27cues that determine which of these
  • 04:29pathways Peabody Creek and activate.
  • 04:31But because it has all these functions,
  • 04:34it is a critical tumor suppressor,
  • 04:36and it is the most doctor
  • 04:38mutated gene human cancers.
  • 04:39So what I showed here is what the
  • 04:42field called the Manhattan Plot,
  • 04:45and it was developed by Magali Olivia.
  • 04:47So across this axis are 125 genes
  • 04:50that are commonly mutated and cancers
  • 04:52and then across this axis here are
  • 04:5536 different types of cancers,
  • 04:57and there's some features that stand out.
  • 05:00But this is the one I want to
  • 05:03highlight here across the board.
  • 05:05These are mutations in the P53
  • 05:08tumor suppressor.
  • 05:08So almost all cancers mutate.
  • 05:1153 but P 53 pathway is inactivated by
  • 05:15multiple mechanisms and I show here
  • 05:18in some of the different cancers and
  • 05:21how they inactivate piece of debris.
  • 05:23So high grade,
  • 05:25serious ovarian carcinomas,
  • 05:26mutations in P53 are the most common.
  • 05:29However,
  • 05:29in liposarcomas it is upregulation of MDM 2,
  • 05:33the P fifty 383 if it could be like a San.
  • 05:37About 100% of these liposarcomas inactivate
  • 05:40the pathway by overexpressing MD.
  • 05:43In the new Asia glioblastoma,
  • 05:45big Sweet come interested in glioblastomas.
  • 05:48Recently, the P 53 gene is altered,
  • 05:51deleted in approximately 1/3 of
  • 05:53glioblastomas in the MDM to an Indian.
  • 05:57For genes are upregulated in
  • 05:59about it order and this is a
  • 06:02mutually exclusive relationship.
  • 06:04So if P53 is mutant,
  • 06:06MDM 2 doesn't have to be upregulated.
  • 06:10And the other thing I want to point
  • 06:13out in glioblastomas is that we have
  • 06:15about half of these tumors that
  • 06:17have neither mutations and piece
  • 06:19of D3 or upregulation of the MDM.
  • 06:22Two and MDM four inhibitors of P53.
  • 06:24And so since I really believe that
  • 06:26the P 53 pathway has to be undermined
  • 06:29in the development of all cancers,
  • 06:31I think that there's a big hole here
  • 06:34that we have to understand in more detail.
  • 06:37So today's start is really going to
  • 06:39concentrate on just a few proteins,
  • 06:41and I'm not going to have time
  • 06:43to show you a whole lot of data,
  • 06:46but I thought I would use this slide
  • 06:49to highlight some of the important.
  • 06:51Functions that I of these proteins
  • 06:54that I will discuss with you today.
  • 06:56So MDM two is an inhibitor of P53.
  • 06:59It's an E3 ubiquitin ligase and
  • 07:02target speakers for degradation.
  • 07:03MDM Four also inhibits P 53.
  • 07:07It doesn't have any E3 ligase function,
  • 07:10but it actually facilitates and makes
  • 07:12MDM two or better yet riveting ligase,
  • 07:15although it also has independent
  • 07:17functions of MDM two and can
  • 07:20actually bind and inhibit the pizza
  • 07:23guy free transactivation domain.
  • 07:25This relationship does MDM 2 New Four
  • 07:28also conform hetero dimer and that
  • 07:30header dimer is critical in embryo
  • 07:33development to inhibit P 53 and then,
  • 07:35as I indicated,
  • 07:37and will discuss in some detail,
  • 07:39P53 can activate the Indian two
  • 07:42promoter so it can up regulate
  • 07:44MDM two in inhibited so levels.
  • 07:47Another important concept that
  • 07:48I'll mention very briefly,
  • 07:50maybe at the end is that MDM
  • 07:53two can also inhibit.
  • 07:55A mutant P53 protein and that's because
  • 07:58these mutant proteins have mutations
  • 08:00in the DNA binding domain but retain
  • 08:02a transcriptional activation domain.
  • 08:05But the important point that I want to
  • 08:08make here is even though this mutant
  • 08:12can be targeted by MD M2 and MD M4.
  • 08:15It is mutant in so can no longer
  • 08:18feed back it up.
  • 08:20Regulate MDM two so with time in our
  • 08:22in vivo models we find that these
  • 08:24people period this can become stabilized
  • 08:27'cause there's insufficient MDM two
  • 08:29to down modulate the protein levels
  • 08:31and in a few minutes you'll see how
  • 08:35important it down modulation is.
  • 08:37So the outline of my talk today is
  • 08:39I'm going to talk about some of the
  • 08:42models that showed us how exquisitely
  • 08:44sensitive P 53 is to inhibition via video 2.
  • 08:49To tell you what the molecular
  • 08:51responses to people three activation
  • 08:54in vivo and last but not least,
  • 08:57I'm going to describe some of the new
  • 09:00cancer models that were working with
  • 09:03that expressed mutant P53 proteins.
  • 09:05So let's first talk about the MDM
  • 09:08proteins and their innovation P.
  • 09:1053. So along time ago and now we.
  • 09:15Attempted to make an Indian to know
  • 09:17Mouse and it's just not possible
  • 09:20and the reason is not possible is
  • 09:22because an MDM two null embryo just
  • 09:25prior to implantation is APOP totic.
  • 09:28This embryo stained with the
  • 09:30tunnel essay in every salad.
  • 09:32This embryo is is dead.
  • 09:35And at the time we knew that
  • 09:38MDM two interacted with P.
  • 09:3953, but we really didn't know how
  • 09:43important interaction was and what
  • 09:45we did was test the importance
  • 09:47of P53 in this little embryo by
  • 09:50crossing 2P53 miles and we completely
  • 09:52rescue this phenotype.
  • 09:54These Meister born and are
  • 09:57perfectly normal except now because
  • 09:59they lack P 53 they have it.
  • 10:02So with with this experiment indicates
  • 10:04is that what MDM two is doing in
  • 10:08these embryos is upregulating P53,
  • 10:10which is preventing the normal
  • 10:12development of these embryos.
  • 10:14MDM fours are related MDM,
  • 10:16two protein that aren't Johansson discovered.
  • 10:19And since MDM two has such a unique
  • 10:23relationship with P53 we decided that
  • 10:25we would make the MDM for knockout
  • 10:28but weren't sure what to expect.
  • 10:32But in MD for knockout is also embryo
  • 10:35lethal a few days after the Indian
  • 10:37to know but again that phenotype is
  • 10:40rescued by deletion of P53 and we've
  • 10:43also made mice that have no MDM to know
  • 10:47Indian for Nokia 53 and these mice.
  • 10:51The viable they have Pizza 3 two or
  • 10:54phenotypes because they lack P 53.
  • 10:56So at least physiologically,
  • 10:58in the mouse,
  • 10:59the two most important functions of
  • 11:02these empty in proteins is to keep
  • 11:05P 53 levels low during homeostasis.
  • 11:07OK,
  • 11:07so we have these MDM two heterozygous
  • 11:10in these MDM for headers I customized.
  • 11:12They have only one allele of
  • 11:14each of these two genes.
  • 11:16In these mice are perfectly
  • 11:18normal and running around,
  • 11:19but as I indicated in my
  • 11:22in my introductory slide.
  • 11:26P 53 is a DNA damage response protein,
  • 11:29and so we wondered if there was
  • 11:31any phenotypes in these mice.
  • 11:33If we irradiated them,
  • 11:35if we damaged their DNA, and sure enough,
  • 11:38we saw a beautiful phenotype.
  • 11:39So the MDM two in the MDM,
  • 11:42two Ambien for headers agasse mice are
  • 11:44sensitive to low dose ionizing radiation.
  • 11:47So in this experiment what we've
  • 11:49done is irradiated mice with six
  • 11:51Gray and the black line above.
  • 11:53Here is a normal mouse.
  • 11:56That for 50 days just ignores.
  • 12:00Six grade radiation, but the headers.
  • 12:02I guess.
  • 12:03Mice MDM four in Red and MDM two and
  • 12:06blue are dead by three weeks of age.
  • 12:10Importantly,
  • 12:10if we now move P53 from this system,
  • 12:14we completely rescue these phenotypes.
  • 12:15So this is the rescue.
  • 12:17The Indium MDM, two heterozygous mouse.
  • 12:20And here's the rescue of the
  • 12:22Indian for headers ecospace.
  • 12:24So even though.
  • 12:25The MDM two and MDM for heterozygotes
  • 12:29mice have sufficient levels of the Zambian
  • 12:32proteins to maintain homeostasis with damage.
  • 12:36There's just not enough of these proteins
  • 12:40to return degree back to normal levels.
  • 12:44The next experiment that I want to
  • 12:47tell you about is the importance
  • 12:49of this feedback loop.
  • 12:51So as I indicated,
  • 12:52MDM two is regulated by P53.
  • 12:55There are two peaks decree
  • 12:57binding sites in the P2 promoter.
  • 12:59There are people,
  • 13:00three dependent,
  • 13:01so people free byansi sequences
  • 13:03and activates MDM 2.
  • 13:05And So what we decided to do is to
  • 13:07ask how important was this feedback
  • 13:10loop in regulating P53 levers?
  • 13:12OK,
  • 13:12so we made point mutations and I show
  • 13:15here the different point mutations
  • 13:17because we didn't want to disrupt
  • 13:19the architecture of the promoter.
  • 13:21We just wanted to disrupt MD PhD degree
  • 13:24binding to the end game to promote it.
  • 13:28So these experiments in the bottom bar
  • 13:30chip data that basically show that
  • 13:33P53 cannot find this mutant promoter,
  • 13:36which we call P2P2,
  • 13:37and this is different promoter that
  • 13:40shows our assays are working in P53 combined.
  • 13:43The pull up remote.
  • 13:45OK,
  • 13:45so we made these point mutations
  • 13:48and we were surprised that are
  • 13:50most was perfectly normal.
  • 13:52We really thought that this
  • 13:54feedback loop is going to be
  • 13:56critical for regulation of P53.
  • 13:59The mice are fine, but again,
  • 14:01as in the previous case,
  • 14:03their exquisitely sensitive to radiation,
  • 14:05so this is the same experiment that I
  • 14:09showed you before we rated it the we
  • 14:13irradiated the mice with six grade.
  • 14:16Normal mice.
  • 14:18MDM two heterozygotes.
  • 14:20Don't care about this dose,
  • 14:22but you can see that the P2P2 homozygous
  • 14:26mice that no longer have this feedback
  • 14:29loop are dead for the most part.
  • 14:32So what is the phenotype?
  • 14:34These animals are actually
  • 14:36dying because of the complete
  • 14:38ablation of the ball mirror,
  • 14:40so here's a heterozygous irradiated mice
  • 14:43and you can see that at 12 days you have
  • 14:47some disruption of bone marrow function,
  • 14:50but it's still viable,
  • 14:52whereas in the mice that lack
  • 14:55the feedback loop,
  • 14:56there's a complete ablation
  • 14:58of Humana Pelisses,
  • 14:59and this is again a P53 dependent.
  • 15:03Process so if we take out
  • 15:06just one illegal appeal 53.
  • 15:08We completely rescued this phenotype so
  • 15:11we can rescue this phenotype with complete
  • 15:14deletion of P53 or header zygosity 5053.
  • 15:17So with these experiments are beginning
  • 15:20to tell us is that there's this.
  • 15:24There is this important relationship
  • 15:26between MDM two and P53,
  • 15:28and then there's an important
  • 15:30balance that has to be maintained
  • 15:32for survival after DNA damage.
  • 15:34The last experiment that I'll show
  • 15:37you here is our attempts to try to
  • 15:40understand which pathway downstream
  • 15:42of P53 is important for this phenotype.
  • 15:46So I've already told you that heterozygosity
  • 15:49Peachtree rescues the phenotype.
  • 15:51We also generated mice with deletion of P.
  • 15:5421, which is the cell cycle inhibitor
  • 15:57and that had no effect on the phenotype.
  • 16:00Those mice are also very
  • 16:02sensitive to radiation,
  • 16:03and then we also deleted Puma,
  • 16:06which is one of the APOP
  • 16:08totic targets of P53.
  • 16:10And here you can see that
  • 16:12there was a complete rescue
  • 16:13of this hematopoietic defects.
  • 16:16So in this scenario it appears
  • 16:18that it is the APOP totic function
  • 16:21opekta degree that is killing.
  • 16:23These hematopoietic stem cells.
  • 16:27So those are just a couple of
  • 16:30the numerous experiments being
  • 16:32done to evaluate the relationship
  • 16:35between MDM24 and P53,
  • 16:37and it's just an exquisite relationship.
  • 16:40You need sufficient MDM 2 for survival.
  • 16:45And.
  • 16:47And if you have too much and you
  • 16:50too MDM for deletion of 53 deletion
  • 16:53of downstream effectors of P53 can
  • 16:55rescue those lethal phenotypes.
  • 16:58Now come. Because.
  • 17:00MDM two is so lethal early.
  • 17:05During embryo Genesis,
  • 17:06one of the experiments we wanted
  • 17:09to do is really ask about an adult
  • 17:12mouse and how important is MDM two in
  • 17:16different tissues at different times,
  • 17:19and we've used,
  • 17:20we've generated this conditional
  • 17:22allele of MDM two and this is using
  • 17:26The LOX P system so these two lacks
  • 17:29besides encompass two of the accents
  • 17:32that code for the major finding.
  • 17:35Region 2P53 so this conditional
  • 17:37Leo then allows us to delete MDM
  • 17:40two in any tissue that we want to.
  • 17:42And we've generated number of
  • 17:44tissues and experiments that way.
  • 17:46But what I want to show you is
  • 17:49what happens when you globally
  • 17:51remove MDM two in the whole months.
  • 17:55So as the title says,
  • 17:56Indian too lost in the adult is
  • 17:59results in a lethal phenotype.
  • 18:01So what we've done here is we've
  • 18:03used a Cree transgene that is
  • 18:05tamoxifen inducible so this is
  • 18:07this is a mouse that has one of
  • 18:10the conditional alleles and it
  • 18:12has the other legalism missing,
  • 18:14so it's single recombination event is
  • 18:16going to create an M2 normals or not sell in.
  • 18:20All we do is inject tamoxifen and then
  • 18:23we look at what happens to these.
  • 18:25Phenotypes,
  • 18:26and I think you can see from this
  • 18:29graph here on the right that within 5
  • 18:31days of treating the mice with tamoxifen,
  • 18:34they're all dead.
  • 18:36So,
  • 18:36so losing MDM two and it's a
  • 18:41Peachtree dependent process.
  • 18:44Causes this enormous physiological response.
  • 18:49These are some of the pathologies we
  • 18:53see in these mice the hippocampus has.
  • 18:57Less number of cells, the retina is is
  • 19:00comprised of multiple beautiful layers
  • 19:02and you can see that it all of these cases
  • 19:06that it's it's a decreased cell numbers.
  • 19:09There's some differences in in the liver,
  • 19:12and it's actually if you
  • 19:14measure liver function.
  • 19:15Liver function is compromised
  • 19:17when you have deletions of MDM.
  • 19:19Two kidney has all these protein
  • 19:22casts and dilated tubules,
  • 19:23and then in the spleen we have
  • 19:27complete absence of white.
  • 19:30And as I indicated,
  • 19:31these phenotypes are all P53 dependent.
  • 19:34So it just.
  • 19:35I mean, I think the important
  • 19:37aspect of this slide is that in
  • 19:40some of the previous slide is it
  • 19:42highlights some of the pathologies
  • 19:44that we might see when we use MDM.
  • 19:47Two inhibitors in the clinic to it.
  • 19:51To inhibit the tumors that have
  • 19:54high levels of empathy into it.
  • 19:56And the hematopoietic defense
  • 19:58is actually observed in humans.
  • 20:00It is treated with MDM two inhibitors.
  • 20:04Uhm?
  • 20:04But now I want to use this model system
  • 20:07to understand what piece of degree
  • 20:09is doing in these different tissues.
  • 20:13In you know one reason for doing
  • 20:15this is we would like to be
  • 20:18able to reactivate P53 somehow,
  • 20:20and it's kind of hard people.
  • 20:22A lot of people are trying to
  • 20:25to reactivate people to agree,
  • 20:27but what we were hoping is that
  • 20:29we might be able to identify
  • 20:32downstream pathways to P53.
  • 20:33There would be better targets
  • 20:36for reactivation tours.
  • 20:37So let me show you what we did.
  • 20:41So again we used our MDM,
  • 20:44two conditional mouse and we
  • 20:46deleted MDM two in the adult mouse.
  • 20:49But we did this acutely and we actually
  • 20:52chose a 24 time our time point to
  • 20:55ask what P53 targets are regulated
  • 20:58in different issues that lead to
  • 21:01these pathologies in the adults.
  • 21:05OK,
  • 21:06so this is now all the different
  • 21:08issues that we initially looked
  • 21:10at and what I'm showing you here
  • 21:13is the percent recombination.
  • 21:15So once we treat with tamoxifen,
  • 21:17we induce recombination of the locus.
  • 21:21And you can see that the pancreas,
  • 21:23the heart being tested,
  • 21:25had the highest level of recombination.
  • 21:27Again,
  • 21:27I will point out that we only have one MDM,
  • 21:31two allele.
  • 21:32The other allele is an allele,
  • 21:34so single recombination event
  • 21:36will activate P 53.
  • 21:38And then on this axis we chose to
  • 21:40look at P53 activation by measuring
  • 21:42the expression of P 21 which is
  • 21:45encodes a cell cycle inhibitor.
  • 21:48So you can see in this experiment
  • 21:50at the kidney,
  • 21:51the pancreas in the intestine
  • 21:54where the tissues that expressed
  • 21:56the highest levels of P.
  • 21:5721.
  • 21:58And we were thinking the highest
  • 22:02levels of of P53.
  • 22:04So we've we've looked at these mice,
  • 22:06so in 24 hours we see no.
  • 22:09So let me back up just for one second,
  • 22:12I hope I can do that,
  • 22:14so that issues that we
  • 22:15decided to look at where
  • 22:17the kidney, the pancreas,
  • 22:18the intestine in the heart.
  • 22:21And the ovary in the ovary.
  • 22:23Just because P 53 is mutant in
  • 22:26ovarian carcinoma is at 95%.
  • 22:3095% frequency and so we wondered
  • 22:32if we might be able to to begin to
  • 22:37understand that mutation frequency.
  • 22:39So for the heart for the ovary,
  • 22:42we saw absolutely no phenotypes after
  • 22:4624 hours post deletion of MDM 2.
  • 22:49In the intestine we saw a
  • 22:52fascinating phenotype which
  • 22:54is descript dropout phenotype.
  • 22:57In yellow here,
  • 22:58I've outlined the ***** of the
  • 23:00intestine and one of the phenotypes is
  • 23:03the complete absence of of the crypt.
  • 23:06Sydney in the lab is quantified
  • 23:08the number of ***** in these
  • 23:11different animals and you can
  • 23:13see the mice that have no MDM.
  • 23:152 have about little more than
  • 23:18little but half of the number of
  • 23:20***** is in normal control mouse.
  • 23:24The kidney also had some phenotypes
  • 23:26at 24 hours and it had twice
  • 23:29the number of protein casts,
  • 23:31so you can see here.
  • 23:32So this is an early phenotype in the kidney.
  • 23:36Again,
  • 23:36this is the normal kidney control experiment.
  • 23:39And then the pancreas had to be a
  • 23:43fascinating phenotype which will
  • 23:44delve into a little bit more deeply.
  • 23:47But we saw in the pancreas is this?
  • 23:52Acinar to ductal metaplasia,
  • 23:54so here's a normal pancreas in the top,
  • 23:57and here's what the pancreas looks like
  • 24:00in the in the animals that have no MDM.
  • 24:042 Here we've stained with keratin 19,
  • 24:07which is a marker for a ductal cell.
  • 24:11And here we've measured the Metaplastic
  • 24:14area and we also see an immune
  • 24:17infiltration in these in these mice.
  • 24:20So within 24 hours we saw this huge
  • 24:23plasticity in the pancreas from you know,
  • 24:27this acinar to ductal metaplasia.
  • 24:30OK,
  • 24:30so we've taken these five
  • 24:32tissues an we've done.
  • 24:34We've looked for expression of P53 targets,
  • 24:37so on the left here I show you all of
  • 24:40the genes that were regulated in these
  • 24:43different issues in our RNA seek data.
  • 24:46The dark region is the region that
  • 24:49is upregulated in the lighter color,
  • 24:51shows the regions that were downregulated
  • 24:54in each of these five tissues.
  • 24:57On the right here I show the percent
  • 25:00of these these dysregulated genes
  • 25:02that are actually P53 targets.
  • 25:04They have a pizza degree binding
  • 25:07site and we used data from the
  • 25:10literature to identify these tools.
  • 25:12With P53 binding sites.
  • 25:14So in the intestine,
  • 25:15for example,
  • 25:16I think that number is 69% of the
  • 25:20channels had pizza pre binding sites.
  • 25:22So the the most.
  • 25:24Most of the genes dysregulated
  • 25:26it in the system by deletion
  • 25:29of MDM 2RP53 targets the ****.
  • 25:32** the other hand had a
  • 25:35huge physiological response,
  • 25:36600 for jeans that were dysregulated
  • 25:39but only 16% repeated different targets.
  • 25:42So what we're capturing here at
  • 25:4524 hours is not just you know
  • 25:48activation of P53 and P3 targets,
  • 25:50But the downstream responds to
  • 25:54that P53 activation.
  • 25:56So this is now compilation of all
  • 25:58those five different tissues to
  • 26:00examine the overlap in P53 target genes.
  • 26:03And as you can see from this figure
  • 26:06on the left there were only 7 jewels
  • 26:10that were commonly regulated.
  • 26:12By MDM 2 lost that repeat 53 targets.
  • 26:16So for example here in the pink is we
  • 26:19have 206 genes, 135 of the P53 targets
  • 26:23are specific to the pancreas and seven
  • 26:26were shared with the other four tissues.
  • 26:29So these seven jeans are MDM two cycling,
  • 26:32G1 MDM two as we as I mentioned,
  • 26:36the very beginning is regulated
  • 26:38by P53 and we expect it well.
  • 26:41We didn't expect them to be able to,
  • 26:45but it's not a surprising result because
  • 26:48the promoter is intact in MDM 2.
  • 26:52Three of these genes segment you one GST,
  • 26:55one piece art, one or cell cycle regulators
  • 26:59to these jeans are transcription factors,
  • 27:02and this gene EDA 2R herself directions.
  • 27:05So these are the six Peachtree
  • 27:08targets that have a common.
  • 27:10They represent the common signature of of
  • 27:13upregulated genes in in these three tissues.
  • 27:16We wanted to validate the signature
  • 27:19to make sure that they were.
  • 27:22Truly, a P53 targets physiologically.
  • 27:24And So what we did is we did our our DNA
  • 27:28damage ionizing radiation experiment.
  • 27:31We treated the whole animal
  • 27:33with ionizing radiation,
  • 27:34and here's the data for two of the jeans,
  • 27:38and we've done it for all
  • 27:41of seven cycling G1 E DA2R.
  • 27:43Here's the wild type levels
  • 27:45of expression of these genes.
  • 27:47If we irradiate,
  • 27:49you can see that these genes are upregulated.
  • 27:52In in both cases,
  • 27:55and if we irradiate a P53 null,
  • 27:58you see you see no up regulation.
  • 28:01So these are P3 target genes that are
  • 28:04being upregulated following punishing
  • 28:06radiation. So these experiments.
  • 28:10Highlight this incredible repertoire.
  • 28:13Transcriptional targets that P53
  • 28:16physiologically regulates the vivo
  • 28:18and I think it also suggests that
  • 28:21maybe these specific targets can
  • 28:23be used to understand in vivo.
  • 28:25If you have.
  • 28:27If you can reactivate piece of D3
  • 28:30or convert mutant and wild type,
  • 28:33these might be great markers to
  • 28:37look at for activation 53.
  • 28:40OK,
  • 28:41I want to now just briefly discuss
  • 28:44this this encrypted hypothesis.
  • 28:47Acinar ductal hyperplasia that
  • 28:49we see within 24 hours in the.
  • 28:53In the pancreas.
  • 28:55So one of the other experiments that
  • 28:59Sidney Moyer in my lab did is we
  • 29:02obtained these mice MST one missed one.
  • 29:06Cree are OK,
  • 29:07so missed one is an SNR
  • 29:09specific transcription factor.
  • 29:11An upstream of the missed one promoter.
  • 29:17There is a criar transgene,
  • 29:19which means that you can express create
  • 29:21only in the *** and ourselves with the.
  • 29:25Pancreas and so Sydney worked out the
  • 29:29tamoxifen conditions that gave you
  • 29:32a similar percent recombination as
  • 29:35our previous experiments with MDM.
  • 29:38Two position in the entire pancreas.
  • 29:41OK, so similar percentage of recombination
  • 29:44and similar activation of P3 targets.
  • 29:48So here we use two of our targets,
  • 29:52EADE, DA2RG, STT, SC1.
  • 29:55To measure people to the activation
  • 29:58and you can see in both my sweet.
  • 30:01MDM two deletion happens in the
  • 30:03home pancreas or mice where it
  • 30:05only happens in the acinar cells.
  • 30:07You have similar activation of
  • 30:09these three of these targets,
  • 30:10so we felt we could do.
  • 30:14We could actually compare deletion
  • 30:16of MDM two in the whole pancreas.
  • 30:18The deletion of MDM two jestoni
  • 30:21Essen ourselves.
  • 30:22And we have absolutely no phenotype.
  • 30:25So these pancreas look completely normal.
  • 30:29Here we're measuring just we're looking at.
  • 30:32I mean,
  • 30:33I ageny sections in here in the right.
  • 30:37We're measuring the immune
  • 30:40component and these these pancreas.
  • 30:42These pancreatic perfectly normal. So.
  • 30:46The take home message here is that.
  • 30:49This esnard ductal hyperplasia that
  • 30:52we see is a P53 specific hyperplasia.
  • 30:56But it's it's arising from signals
  • 30:59outside of the acinar cells.
  • 31:02So to me,
  • 31:03this is a fascinating experiment
  • 31:07because no one's ever noted that.
  • 31:11That the environment can can affect
  • 31:14the pizza delivery response,
  • 31:16and so we'll be delving into understanding
  • 31:21this phenotype a little bit better.
  • 31:25Pancreas is is one of the tumors
  • 31:29with 7075% mutations in P53 an and
  • 31:32it always has this very compromised
  • 31:35stromal component and so maybe by
  • 31:39understanding what P 53 is doing is
  • 31:43physiologically important Organism,
  • 31:45we might be able to impact our
  • 31:49understanding of Peter mutations in
  • 31:53pancreatic cancer. OK, so the let out.
  • 31:56OK so I'm just going to check my
  • 31:59Clock to see how much time I'm doing.
  • 32:02Well, OK,
  • 32:03so I've shown you a lot of data
  • 32:05where we deleted MDM two and an
  • 32:08I didn't show you data for MDM 4
  • 32:11but you you see these people three
  • 32:13dependent physiological phenotypes
  • 32:14and that's all fine and good.
  • 32:16It showed us how important this
  • 32:18relationship is between these proteins but.
  • 32:21What happens in human cancers is
  • 32:23you've got high expressions of
  • 32:25MDM two and this is just yes,
  • 32:27mean Valentina Vega in the lab
  • 32:29a number of years ago looked at
  • 32:32Indian 2 levels in head and neck
  • 32:34squamous carcinomas and these are
  • 32:36some of her beautiful pictures.
  • 32:38So here's MDM,
  • 32:39two expressed a very highly in a small
  • 32:42region of this squamous cell carcinoma here.
  • 32:456 expressed almost across the
  • 32:47entire tissue and then here is
  • 32:49an interesting example of MDM.
  • 32:51To be expressed in the cytoplasm,
  • 32:53not the nucleus.
  • 32:54So we really don't understand
  • 32:56what it's doing in the cytoplasm,
  • 32:59but not in all three of these experiments, P.
  • 33:0253 is 1 type OK,
  • 33:04so I think with this experiment
  • 33:07in many others that
  • 33:09people have done. Again.
  • 33:13Again, show that what MDM two is doing in
  • 33:17these tissues is inhibiting P53 activity.
  • 33:20Now the I also don't want to leave
  • 33:23you with the notion that MDM too.
  • 33:27The P53 is the only MDM to target.
  • 33:31Physiologically is the most
  • 33:33relevant target because of the cell
  • 33:36lethal phenotypes that we see,
  • 33:38but in several experiments that my lab
  • 33:42and Carol previous labs have done is,
  • 33:45we've tried to overexpress MDM two in
  • 33:48normal cells to understand what it's
  • 33:51actually doing in with regards to
  • 33:54transformation and tumor evolution.
  • 33:56So here's what happens.
  • 33:58So this is a normal control and the
  • 34:02left these are mouse cells express a
  • 34:05normal number of mouse chroma zones,
  • 34:08and when we overexpressed MDM two
  • 34:11we see this incredibly abnormal.
  • 34:14Chromosome instability we can quantify
  • 34:17the numbers of fusions here and
  • 34:20we have a huge number of fusions.
  • 34:22We also have a lot of fragments.
  • 34:27So in data from multiple labs,
  • 34:29if you overexpress MDM two in a
  • 34:32normal cell the cell just dies.
  • 34:35It can continue to grow.
  • 34:37So and you know some experiments
  • 34:39that are ongoing in the lab is OK,
  • 34:42trying to understand.
  • 34:44OK,
  • 34:44so if we can't overexpress MDM
  • 34:47two in a normal cell?
  • 34:49Why do tumors have very high levels
  • 34:51of ambient 2IN in one idea that we're
  • 34:54working with is that there are some
  • 34:57other rotation in those tumors that
  • 34:59allows those tumors to survive with
  • 35:02high levels of MDM two and so if we
  • 35:05could understand what else MDM two is doing,
  • 35:08we might be able to obtain a.
  • 35:12A window of vulnerability to try to get the
  • 35:16MDM two overexpressing cells to implode.
  • 35:20But the screens that we're doing
  • 35:23currently are are ongoing.
  • 35:25OK then for the last few minutes
  • 35:29of my lecture I want to.
  • 35:32Move over to our understanding of P53
  • 35:36mutations in breast cancer models.
  • 35:39Didn't tell you earlier, but pizza degree.
  • 35:42Why did tell you the people
  • 35:45limitations for the most common,
  • 35:47but really it speak into three
  • 35:50missense mutations that are is the
  • 35:53most common type of genetic lesion,
  • 35:55and so my lab and that of Tyler left.
  • 35:59Tyler Jacks is lab have made germline
  • 36:02mutations in P53IN animal models and
  • 36:05we show that these mice are tumor pro.
  • 36:08But more importantly in contrast.
  • 36:11Green or mice?
  • 36:12These mice have a high metastatic capability,
  • 36:15so this here is our data from the
  • 36:18172 mutation corresponds to the
  • 36:20origin 175 mutation,
  • 36:21which is one of the hot spot
  • 36:24mutations in human cancers.
  • 36:26And here you can see a metastasis
  • 36:28to the liver,
  • 36:29and here stained with the P53 antibody,
  • 36:32a metastasis to the brain.
  • 36:35And this is in contrast to mice
  • 36:38that have deletions of 353,
  • 36:40so this really was the first example
  • 36:43that suggested that expressing
  • 36:44a mutant P53 was much more.
  • 36:49Much more aggressive than not having
  • 36:51people to create and and in the field.
  • 36:53We call this a gain of function.
  • 36:55Mutant P 53 is doing something in these
  • 36:58cells to make them highly metastatic.
  • 37:01So these are germline mice and what we
  • 37:04wanted to do is to generate semantic
  • 37:07models because the these germline models
  • 37:10represent Lee from Many syndrome which is
  • 37:14an inheritance of people to mutations.
  • 37:16But that's a rare syndrome and we really
  • 37:20wanted to understand this metastatic
  • 37:23phenotype in a system where the the
  • 37:26specific cell type has a Peach limitation
  • 37:29and surrounding normal environment.
  • 37:31To feel yourself to catch neutral
  • 37:34goes to T cells are all wild type
  • 37:37for P53 so that mouse did not exist.
  • 37:39Tyler Jacks made a beautiful mouse that
  • 37:42has been used extensively in the literature
  • 37:44that basically is heterozygous for P53.
  • 37:47So the entire mouse is missing 1P53 allele
  • 37:50and Natalie all can be converted to a
  • 37:52mutant P53 in a tissue specific fashion.
  • 37:55So we didn't think that that was.
  • 37:59Adequate enough to study the tumor,
  • 38:01stroma tumor immune interactions because
  • 38:03of heterozygosity of the P53 locus.
  • 38:05So let me tell you a little bit
  • 38:08about how we generate these mice and
  • 38:12what our breast tumor phenotype is.
  • 38:14OK, so here's how we generated these alleles.
  • 38:18So we call these WM allele for
  • 38:21wild type to mute P 53.
  • 38:23So I'll show you in a minute this
  • 38:25is a wild type allele normally and
  • 38:28it's wild type because we earned
  • 38:31started seeding a sequence upstream
  • 38:33of the point mutation and this is
  • 38:37this example is the Argentine,
  • 38:39once it imitation which
  • 38:40we generated previously.
  • 38:42So what you have is a wild type P50.
  • 38:45Three years of pollination site and
  • 38:47then in a cream immediate fashion
  • 38:50you can remove the wild type C DNA
  • 38:53and basically reconstruct the locus.
  • 38:55The arm and Cindy to Locust that we
  • 38:58had studied forever in the germ line.
  • 39:01With these mice and because it took a
  • 39:04very long time to make these animals,
  • 39:07we actually decided to make a second
  • 39:09hotspot mutation and that's the
  • 39:11Argentine 2.5 to double mutation,
  • 39:13which corresponds to the 248
  • 39:15hotspot mutation.
  • 39:16Uhm?
  • 39:19So this is just showing me wild type
  • 39:21initially and then we committed fashion.
  • 39:23You make them into protein and you can
  • 39:25make it in akhri dependente manner.
  • 39:28So this just shows you how normal
  • 39:30those mice are.
  • 39:32So here we're comparing wild type 2
  • 39:35heterozygous mice with the 172 or the 2.5.
  • 39:37We stabilized the mutant protein
  • 39:39in response to DNA damage.
  • 39:41And when we look at the activation
  • 39:44of the three targets be 21 in Puma,
  • 39:47they were activated to similar levels.
  • 39:51We looked at the ability of these.
  • 39:54Of DNA damage to induce labor ptosis?
  • 39:57No difference between these
  • 39:58two alleles in wild type mice.
  • 40:00And again for the ability to rest the
  • 40:03cycle in mouse embryo fibroblasts,
  • 40:06there's no difference,
  • 40:07so these mutant alleles really
  • 40:09represent these condition alleles.
  • 40:11That column you Tilly's really
  • 40:13represent wild type allele.
  • 40:15They can become a moot.
  • 40:18And this is the last experiment I'll
  • 40:20show you about the the actual alleles.
  • 40:23What we've done is what we've
  • 40:25done here is compared the 172
  • 40:27heterozygous mice at 245 headers.
  • 40:29I guess mice and wild type mice to
  • 40:32each other over more than two years
  • 40:34to look at the tumor phenotypes.
  • 40:37Mice is the age.
  • 40:38Just like people will sporadically
  • 40:40get tumors, but what you can see is
  • 40:42that there's absolutely no statistical
  • 40:44difference between the three alleles.
  • 40:46So for all practical purposes.
  • 40:48This new allele that we generated
  • 40:51expresses a wild type P53 protein.
  • 40:54OK, so let me tell you bout two experiments.
  • 40:58One is our semantic breast semantic
  • 41:02model and what we did is we did
  • 41:06use the R172H and the 245 alleles.
  • 41:10We injected Adna virus Cree into the duct
  • 41:14of the mammary gland and so and then.
  • 41:17In addition, we use this TV tomato
  • 41:20allele which is also create dependent.
  • 41:22So when we inject adeno Korea not
  • 41:25show you a picture in a minute.
  • 41:28We basically make a mutant P
  • 41:3153 and we label the cell red.
  • 41:35So here is the.
  • 41:38Control experiments to show that we
  • 41:41do get recombination when we inject
  • 41:44the cream expressing adeno virus here
  • 41:46on the left is a low titer injection
  • 41:49and you can see the red cells here.
  • 41:521 to 5% of the ductal cells become infected.
  • 41:57And then here on the right you can see.
  • 42:00A high titer virus was used was
  • 42:03injected into this gland in about 50 to
  • 42:0570% of the ductal cells are checked.
  • 42:09I also want to note that these
  • 42:12mice are 50% balzi.
  • 42:13Normally the P53 field is used to
  • 42:16see 57 black, 6 string to study.
  • 42:21Peabody create tumor phenotypes,
  • 42:23but that strain is resistant to
  • 42:26breast cancers for some reason,
  • 42:28and the beltsy component brings in
  • 42:31more sensitivity to breast cancers,
  • 42:34and we really don't know the
  • 42:37genetic reasons for this.
  • 42:40OK, so here is the data.
  • 42:42Let me go through it in detail.
  • 42:45So this is the 172 mutation expressed
  • 42:48only in a few mammary glands.
  • 42:50Memory cells, low titer.
  • 42:52We didn't see any tumors.
  • 42:55High titer,
  • 42:56we actually didn't see any tumors.
  • 42:59This one tumor showed up.
  • 43:01Post that to your end time
  • 43:04point of the experiment.
  • 43:07Because we weren't sure we were going
  • 43:09to get any tumors by just making
  • 43:12people scream Mutant in a few cells.
  • 43:15We also.
  • 43:17Irradiated with the sub lethal
  • 43:19dose of radiation.
  • 43:21This is not lethal to the mouse,
  • 43:24but it does cause damage and if the
  • 43:27damage is in the right or wrong genes
  • 43:30that contributes to tumor phenotype.
  • 43:33So with a low titer we begin to see tumors.
  • 43:37We sell one at a higher titer.
  • 43:40We now solve 4 tumors and
  • 43:43one tumor metastasized.
  • 43:45The 2.5 allele was a much stronger,
  • 43:47had a much stronger tumor,
  • 43:49phenotype with low titer.
  • 43:51We saw four tumors and one of them was
  • 43:55meta static with the high tier tighter.
  • 43:58We saw nine tumors, so this is about
  • 44:0175% and more than half were meta static.
  • 44:04So let me kind of summarize all the data
  • 44:07that we've done with these animals.
  • 44:10So first let's just look at
  • 44:13the tumor incidence. The R 172.
  • 44:15Each allele all by itself in in.
  • 44:17In these experiments, we only use
  • 44:20one copy because we didn't want to.
  • 44:24We didn't want to do LOH and
  • 44:26we didn't want to.
  • 44:28We just wanted to figure out what
  • 44:30would happen with the minimal
  • 44:32number of alterations.
  • 44:34So if you compare the ones need two hitters
  • 44:37Vegas to the 2.5 low and high titer,
  • 44:40there's a huge number of tumors in the 248.
  • 44:44Nice if we irradiated the ones only two,
  • 44:47we got increased tumor incidence and
  • 44:49then this is the experiment where
  • 44:51we did mutate the other allele.
  • 44:54So existing law supporters I got
  • 44:57city and we can see.
  • 44:59Increased tumor phenotype with the high dose.
  • 45:02And this is a comparison on in the
  • 45:04middle panel of the metastatic phenotype,
  • 45:06and again the 245 documentation
  • 45:08was the most metastatic.
  • 45:10And then we looked at lots of header
  • 45:14zygosity so the 245 mutation had.
  • 45:18Variations in terms of LOH.
  • 45:20About 50% of the mice showed LOH
  • 45:23and then others retained some or
  • 45:26all of the P3 alleles.
  • 45:28The irradiated are once again 28.
  • 45:31Showed 100%. LOH so to us.
  • 45:35While we don't understand why we
  • 45:38see 100% outrage with this allele,
  • 45:41would it says?
  • 45:42Is it that wild type allele is
  • 45:44very strong at inhibiting tumors
  • 45:47in this winsome need to background?
  • 45:52These are the breast tumor subtypes that
  • 45:55we saw the irradiated once in need two
  • 45:58we saw mostly triple negative breast.
  • 46:01There are 172 with the
  • 46:03that lacks wild type P53.
  • 46:05We sell mostly luminal B and then here
  • 46:09with the 2.5 mutation we saw all three.
  • 46:14Molecular subtypes to me this is fascinating
  • 46:17experiment because we've made one mutation,
  • 46:20we made a P53 mutation and yet here in this
  • 46:24sample with the 2:45 we see off the tumor,
  • 46:28molecular subtypes evolving and so one of
  • 46:31the experiments that we're doing now is
  • 46:35trying to understand with this 245 mutation,
  • 46:38what are the triggers to
  • 46:40these different subtypes?
  • 46:41Triple negative breast cancer
  • 46:43is very hard to treat.
  • 46:46But for example,
  • 46:47here to enrich tumors you can,
  • 46:50you can treat with her two antibodies,
  • 46:53so we're trying to understand
  • 46:55basically the tumor evolution
  • 46:56that initiates with this one, P.
  • 46:5953 missense mutation.
  • 47:02We've also wanted to so the data
  • 47:05I just showed you says that
  • 47:08the 248 mutation is much more.
  • 47:11Dramatic.
  • 47:12Then the 175 mutation.
  • 47:14So what I showed here is a comparison
  • 47:17of ovarian lung and breast tumors
  • 47:20from people and just looking at the
  • 47:23kind of mutation that they have and
  • 47:26you can see in people that the 248
  • 47:29mutation is has the worst outcomes.
  • 47:33We couldn't do these data just
  • 47:35for breast because the number of
  • 47:38samples out there was not enough
  • 47:40to give us significance.
  • 47:43OK,
  • 47:43so the one of the last experiments
  • 47:46I'll show you here is just trying to
  • 47:49understand tumor evolution because
  • 47:52we made a semantic model that
  • 47:54develop different kinds of breast
  • 47:57cancers that were highly metastatic.
  • 47:59And so I'm really interested in
  • 48:01understanding the task sees in an in
  • 48:05vivo physiologically relevant system.
  • 48:07So we did.
  • 48:08Here is we took the 2:45 mutant
  • 48:11animals and we took.
  • 48:13UH-22 memory tumors from these mice
  • 48:15we sequenced them in three different
  • 48:17regions trying to understand a
  • 48:19little bit about the heterogeneity,
  • 48:21and then we sequenced three
  • 48:24metastases from each of these tumors.
  • 48:26OK,
  • 48:27and we sequence them to an
  • 48:29incredible debt depth.
  • 48:31So what we have here then is the
  • 48:34comparison of the primary to the
  • 48:37metastases and if we just look at mouse #4,
  • 48:42there is some overlap in these these
  • 48:45this overlap is considered an early
  • 48:48gene signature and then you see this.
  • 48:52Slate sequences that come up,
  • 48:54which is how,
  • 48:56which is what,
  • 48:57where the metastases is now evolving
  • 48:59when it gets into its metastatic site,
  • 49:03which in this case was the lung.
  • 49:06And so we can compare the early
  • 49:09mutations of all three.
  • 49:11The task season you see early
  • 49:13mutations in both experiments,
  • 49:15so these are the mutations that
  • 49:17were acquired in the primary and
  • 49:19metastatic lesion at the same time.
  • 49:22But when you look at late mutations,
  • 49:24here's all three mutations for mouse #4
  • 49:27there's only one late mutation common.
  • 49:30So with these sequencing data,
  • 49:33indicate is that these matasa
  • 49:35fees left the tumor very early
  • 49:38during the metastatic process and
  • 49:41then seated and had
  • 49:43additional changes. So this was the
  • 49:47first suggestion that maybe metastasis.
  • 49:50Breast cancer metastasis driven
  • 49:52by a new P53 is an early event.
  • 49:56So to summarize, this model
  • 49:58just briefly, we can make.
  • 50:00P 3 point mutation in just a few
  • 50:04cells that become a tumor that.
  • 50:08Interessee migrate,
  • 50:10proliferate and develop these metastases.
  • 50:14Where we now have I called it a
  • 50:16little factory but we just have
  • 50:18these mice now developing tumors.
  • 50:20We can isolate the circulating tumor cells,
  • 50:22so we're trying to do is understand that
  • 50:26the changes that occur for these cells
  • 50:29to be able to survive in the blood.
  • 50:32To home into an organ and then to develop.
  • 50:35OK, if I have a few minutes which
  • 50:37I have just a few minutes,
  • 50:40I'm going to tell you about the
  • 50:42other model that we made because we
  • 50:45weren't sure that making a people
  • 50:47communication in just a few cells was
  • 50:49going to give us a tumor phenotype.
  • 50:52So here we use K14 create,
  • 50:54which expresses then a mutant P53 in all
  • 50:56of the epithelial cells of the mammary gland,
  • 51:00and this is a model that develops.
  • 51:02Triple negative breast
  • 51:04cancer 100% of the time.
  • 51:06So again this.
  • 51:07This suggests that you know South normal
  • 51:10cell tumor cell interactions are altering
  • 51:13the kinds of tumors that come up.
  • 51:16And in this scenario we also had a
  • 51:19cast 9 allele that is Creed dependent,
  • 51:23so K14 CRV and allows us to make a
  • 51:26mutant people degree in just a few
  • 51:29in the epithelium of the mammary
  • 51:32gland and to express castanon so we
  • 51:35can use CRISPR technologies to to
  • 51:39begin to address vulnerabilities.
  • 51:41OK,
  • 51:41so this vulnerability that we examine
  • 51:44this in this model was whether these
  • 51:48tumors were addicted to having immune to P53.
  • 51:52OK,
  • 51:53so here is the use that adnot
  • 51:57associated virus that expresses
  • 51:59a guide RNA that will delete P.
  • 52:0253.
  • 52:03So the tumor burden before treatment
  • 52:06with a V in the control and the mute.
  • 52:11Depleted tumors with similar,
  • 52:13but you can see here in in the Purple line
  • 52:16that those tumors that had depletion of
  • 52:18you piece of degree survived much longer.
  • 52:21This is just a picture of the tumor
  • 52:24phenotypes that control you can see that.
  • 52:27It's very.
  • 52:28It's obviously a tumor.
  • 52:30These mice die very quickly post
  • 52:33identification of the tumors,
  • 52:34and then you can see here with the
  • 52:38depletion immunity theory this this
  • 52:41this gland is looking more normal.
  • 52:44OK,
  • 52:44this is a whole bunch of data for the
  • 52:48individual mice that this is a tumor volume.
  • 52:52The controls and green here.
  • 52:54Once we identify the tumor,
  • 52:56they just keep growing the experimental
  • 52:58cohort here in purple are animals
  • 53:01that have recombined have basically
  • 53:03deleted that mute people free protein
  • 53:06in these mice live much longer.
  • 53:08On the right is a tumor volume,
  • 53:11so you can see that depletion of
  • 53:14P53 affects the tumor volume.
  • 53:17Greatly and then I'll just point
  • 53:20out these two samples in Orange,
  • 53:22which appeared not to respond
  • 53:24to depletion of Mutant P
  • 53:2753, and when we look at
  • 53:29these two samples in detail,
  • 53:31they did not express a stable mutant P.
  • 53:3453, and so we think that
  • 53:37these two tumors are actually.
  • 53:40Since the P 53 isn't stable,
  • 53:42the evolution that's occurring
  • 53:44in these tumors is due to the
  • 53:47absence of the P53 protein and
  • 53:49not to a gain of function.
  • 53:52OK, so I'm going to stop there
  • 53:54and just I thrown a lot of data
  • 53:57at you so I wanted to summarize
  • 53:59briefly the first set of experiments
  • 54:02really captured the exquisite
  • 54:04sentence sensitivity of the MDM,
  • 54:06two protein and P53 activity.
  • 54:08We were able to.
  • 54:12Identify this the molecular response
  • 54:13to P53 activation in vivo identified
  • 54:15numerous targets that are tissue specific.
  • 54:18What are they all doing?
  • 54:20I think we have our work cut out
  • 54:22for us 'cause there's no way I can
  • 54:25delete every one of these targets
  • 54:27and see how important they are in
  • 54:30vivo and then last but not least,
  • 54:33I showed you the generation of of
  • 54:36this novel mouse model that really
  • 54:38allows us now to make a semantic
  • 54:40point potential 53 in.
  • 54:42Any cell of origin that we want
  • 54:45to an in in the breast model.
  • 54:49Specifically,
  • 54:49we had a highly metastatic phenotype that
  • 54:53we're trying to understand in more detail.
  • 54:56OK,
  • 54:56so my last slide is just the
  • 54:59numerous people in the lab that
  • 55:02have contributed to the studies.
  • 55:05The Vinodh Pant did the feedback loop
  • 55:08studies Roberto Navy MTM Tunicate Johnny DMD.
  • 55:12Or not,
  • 55:13God Tamera did all the studies
  • 55:15with the radiation and with the
  • 55:18node to look at the P3 response,
  • 55:22Sidney generated the conditional mouse to
  • 55:24look at the acute activation of people.
  • 55:28Three targets you in terrific postdoc
  • 55:30in the lab now has her own independent
  • 55:34position generated that conditional
  • 55:36mood P53 allele and Donata is the
  • 55:40one who's studying the addiction.
  • 55:42We're really wondering what the
  • 55:44mechanisms is acquire these
  • 55:46tumors imploding when they no
  • 55:48longer have communities industry.
  • 55:50So with that, I'll end in, oh,
  • 55:53I'm glad to answer any questions.
  • 55:56Thank
  • 55:57you so much.
  • 55:58That was a wonderful talk.
  • 56:00I'm going to ask people to put
  • 56:03questions in the in the chat,
  • 56:05but I I wanted to ask you, sort of,
  • 56:09from from the therapeutics perspective,
  • 56:11people have been very interested in
  • 56:13compounds like Prima and Cody that
  • 56:16assist with re re folding of P53 with
  • 56:18disruptive mutation and yet clinically
  • 56:21those have been a little bit disappointing.
  • 56:25Is is much known about whether or not
  • 56:29those refolded P 53's are better,
  • 56:32worse the same as as substrates for the MDM?
  • 56:36Two MDM four? Yeah, so,
  • 56:38so we've done a few studies using some of
  • 56:42the drugs that are available, not many.
  • 56:47My lab is focused on the genetics
  • 56:49because if we take out him to an MP4 we
  • 56:53see people three different phenotypes,
  • 56:55but you know it's very different.
  • 56:58Genetic told us mechanisms,
  • 56:59but the drugs are really as you indicated.
  • 57:03They're going to tell us
  • 57:05whether they work or not.
  • 57:07So I agree with you, I don't think
  • 57:10that drugs are working very well.
  • 57:13And you know,
  • 57:15I don't know enough about those
  • 57:17experiments to know you know how
  • 57:19often you know how often the drug
  • 57:21with the level of activation.
  • 57:23I think that our.
  • 57:26Our.
  • 57:28That that that 7 gene signature that
  • 57:31we identified would really help in
  • 57:34those studies to try to understand
  • 57:36what is the pika degree response?
  • 57:39I also think that the people
  • 57:42agree response required.
  • 57:44Will vary in different tissues.
  • 57:49We just know from our MDM two studies that
  • 57:51some tissues are just much more sensitive
  • 57:54to increase P 53 levels versus others.
  • 57:57So I think that there's just a whole lot
  • 58:00more work to be in to do in the clinic to
  • 58:03be able to to understand that response.
  • 58:07Yeah, yeah, I I think having a common set of.
  • 58:11I mean I think people have just looked
  • 58:13at P 21 over and over again and it's
  • 58:16probably very inadequate, right?
  • 58:18I see a couple questions and
  • 58:20we have like a minute left.
  • 58:22So first Jeff Townsend wants to know.
  • 58:25Whether or not you've considered
  • 58:28looking at sequencing of much larger
  • 58:30cohorts of tumors and multi sample
  • 58:33datasets to understand the temporal
  • 58:36order of mutation appearances,
  • 58:38that's exactly what
  • 58:39we're doing right now I have a postdoc in
  • 58:43a graduate student who just generated.
  • 58:47A cohort of 100. Nice 'cause we want
  • 58:49to understand the sequence of events.
  • 58:51We want to understand the
  • 58:52different events that lead to the
  • 58:54different molecular subtypes.
  • 58:55So we are in the midst of those
  • 58:58experiments and we're going to do RNA
  • 59:00seek and in DNA sequencing to understand
  • 59:02both what happens if Arnie level.
  • 59:04I think that it's critical we need
  • 59:06to understand what's happening
  • 59:07at the DNA level because I think
  • 59:10that that's what gives rise to the
  • 59:12different molecular subtypes.
  • 59:13But I think it's the expression
  • 59:15that's really going to tell us.
  • 59:17What's happening to those cells once
  • 59:20they reach home to deliver the line so?
  • 59:24So we got all those are in progress.
  • 59:28Then, Karen Anderson, who's my Co.
  • 59:31Host for having invited you,
  • 59:33wants to ask what your thoughts
  • 59:35might be for a pro TEC directed
  • 59:38against MDM two try to grade that
  • 59:41as a therapeutic strategy. I
  • 59:43think there's two Protex we
  • 59:45should be thinking about.
  • 59:46One is MDM 2. Although.
  • 59:50Somehow I think for an MDM two
  • 59:53inhibitor I think you've got to,
  • 59:56you've got to target it
  • 59:58to the to the tumor cell.
  • 01:00:00Better just because of the
  • 01:00:03hematopoetic toxic cities that have
  • 01:00:05been seen with the MTM 2 inhibitors.
  • 01:00:08But I also think we should
  • 01:00:10start thinking about potentially
  • 01:00:12doing degrading mutant P.
  • 01:00:1353 Taking it out of the picture
  • 01:00:16to see to see what happens.
  • 01:00:20Particularly with those gain
  • 01:00:22of function mutations,
  • 01:00:24exactly exactly.
  • 01:00:28We are over there more questions but
  • 01:00:31we are over the time so I want to be
  • 01:00:34respectful of very appreciative of of you,
  • 01:00:36having joined us today and if
  • 01:00:38anybody wants to ask me a question,
  • 01:00:41email that they should feel free to I think
  • 01:00:43allowed to answer additional questions.
  • 01:00:48Super very much.