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Multiple Myeloma

January 19, 2021
  • 00:00Actual. Post Ash meeting where a few
  • 00:03minutes late but will try to finish
  • 00:06on time because I know all of you
  • 00:09have other things to go too so it's
  • 00:11a pleasure to start this series.
  • 00:13I think there has been a lot of new
  • 00:15and great development in ash meeting
  • 00:18and because of their virtual format,
  • 00:20sometimes it's very difficult to
  • 00:21catch up with all of those articles.
  • 00:24So we are going to have six weekly sessions.
  • 00:27The first one today will be about
  • 00:29multiple myeloma and we will
  • 00:31cover the other important.
  • 00:32Disease elements in the next few sessions.
  • 00:36So this meeting will be recorded.
  • 00:40And we will have the recording
  • 00:43available for subsequent viewing.
  • 00:45Please remember that this is
  • 00:47also see me credited so you can
  • 00:50see it get CME credit for this
  • 00:52hour and for subsequent meetings.
  • 00:55So today our talk will be
  • 00:58about multiple myeloma.
  • 00:59It's a pleasure to have highly
  • 01:02distinguished and expert.
  • 01:03Basically speakers today with
  • 01:05me from Yale University.
  • 01:07So we'll start with the Doctor
  • 01:10with Doctor Natalia Nippori.
  • 01:11See who's an assistant professor of
  • 01:13medicine and she's going to talk to
  • 01:16us about updates in the frontline
  • 01:18management of multiple myeloma.
  • 01:20This will be followed by Doctor Terry Parker,
  • 01:23our assistant Professor of Medicine at Yale,
  • 01:25who's gonna cover the refractory
  • 01:27and relapsed multiple myeloma then.
  • 01:29Doctors know far.
  • 01:30Power Hour,
  • 01:31assistant professor of Medicine
  • 01:32who specializes in car T cell
  • 01:34therapy and transplantation,
  • 01:36especially on the My llama front.
  • 01:38She will.
  • 01:38Cover those for us and this will go
  • 01:41for around 40 minutes after that.
  • 01:43At the end we're gonna have 15
  • 01:45minutes for questions and answers,
  • 01:46so if I can ask you to write
  • 01:48down your questions,
  • 01:50you can write him throughout the
  • 01:51session and send them to us.
  • 01:53And just to make sure we can go
  • 01:55through all the slides will keep
  • 01:57their questions and until the end
  • 01:59we're going to have a panelist who
  • 02:01is Doctor Sabrina Browning who's
  • 02:03our instructor with a focus on
  • 02:04amyloidosis and also multiple myeloma.
  • 02:06All four speakers will be available at
  • 02:08the end to take questions from you.
  • 02:10And we look forward to a great
  • 02:12presentation so Natalia please stop for us.
  • 02:14Thank you.
  • 02:19Thank you very much, Doctor Zaidan. Good
  • 02:22afternoon and thank you all for joining.
  • 02:25As mentioned, these are the panelists
  • 02:28joining the discussion today and
  • 02:30I will begin by up highlighting
  • 02:32initial therapy and biology.
  • 02:34Pathophysiology of myeloma.
  • 02:36These are my disclosures.
  • 02:37I would like to begin by highlighting
  • 02:40the work by Doctor Kardashian
  • 02:42from NCI who presented the work
  • 02:45on the treatment of high risk,
  • 02:48smoldering multiple myeloma.
  • 02:49With carfilzomib, Lenalidomide,
  • 02:51and dexamethasone, this was a phase
  • 02:53two clinical in Carrollton study.
  • 02:55The primary objective was the study was
  • 02:58to determine the minimal residual disease.
  • 03:01Negative complete response rates.
  • 03:03Another key secondary objectives,
  • 03:05including progression free survival,
  • 03:07overall survival,
  • 03:07duration of MRD.
  • 03:09Negative state. This is the overall
  • 03:12study design. This study was
  • 03:14quite inclusive in that this study
  • 03:17included all patients with high risk
  • 03:20definition by any of these criteria,
  • 03:22including Mayo Clinic,
  • 03:24but Seamus Spanish high risk criteria
  • 03:27they've defined by flow cytometry based
  • 03:30on a barren plasma cell expression
  • 03:32as well as Raj Kumar along Grennan
  • 03:36Mateus criteria which include plasma
  • 03:38cell percentage level of protein.
  • 03:40Humana paresis as well as cytogenetic
  • 03:43and imaging abnormalities so
  • 03:45patients on this study received the
  • 03:48induction therapy with carfilzomib,
  • 03:50REVLIMID dexamethasone combination.
  • 03:51For eight cycles of therapy followed
  • 03:54by Lenalidomide maintenance with their
  • 03:56usual 20 day cycles for up to two years,
  • 03:59followed by observation at
  • 04:01every three month interval,
  • 04:02with annual staging imaging.
  • 04:05Patients in this protocol.
  • 04:07Preceded with stem cell harvest.
  • 04:09After four cycles of therapy,
  • 04:11bone marrow was monitored for MRD
  • 04:14assessment with flow cytometry and
  • 04:17PET CT scan imaging was incorporated
  • 04:20for response assessment at the end
  • 04:22of induction and then annually.
  • 04:24Overall, 54 patients enrolled and treated.
  • 04:27And what's what's interesting is
  • 04:29that 37% of patients displayed high
  • 04:32risk cytogenetic features and all
  • 04:34of the patients met criteria for
  • 04:36high risk smoldering based on these
  • 04:39definitions and what's remarkable with
  • 04:41this study is that sustained MRD,
  • 04:43negative complete remission rates were
  • 04:46on the order of 70% in this cohort and
  • 04:49at two years and five years of survival,
  • 04:53sustained MRD negative complete
  • 04:54responses remained at 1779 and
  • 04:5753% of patients respectively.
  • 04:59And overall response rates with
  • 05:01this regimen were 100% with 72%
  • 05:04achieving complete response and
  • 05:0694% of very good partial response.
  • 05:08Overall survival and progression
  • 05:10free survival are not reached,
  • 05:12but at 80 or milestone,
  • 05:1491% of patients remain progression free.
  • 05:17The treatment emergent adverse events were,
  • 05:19as would be expected for this
  • 05:22triplet combination.
  • 05:23Specifically,
  • 05:23side effects of special interest in the
  • 05:26form of cardiac toxicity were seen in.
  • 05:29Only two 2 patients with heart
  • 05:32failure and 4% of this population.
  • 05:34So overall this data show that
  • 05:36carfilzomib REVLIMID dexamethasone
  • 05:38regimen is highly potent.
  • 05:40An leads to very deep responses in high risk,
  • 05:43smoldering multiple myeloma.
  • 05:45Providing further background for this
  • 05:47evolving treatment landscape for early
  • 05:49intervention and treatment of high risk,
  • 05:51smoldering patients who have high risk of
  • 05:54progression of greater than 75% / 2 years.
  • 05:57Next I would like to highlight
  • 06:00the updates on the griefing trial,
  • 06:03Griffin trial, early safety,
  • 06:05and efficacy data were published
  • 06:07in 2020 in Blood Journal,
  • 06:10and as you know,
  • 06:11this combination of this trial compare
  • 06:14daratumumab over RVD compared to the
  • 06:17old RVD triplet standard of care.
  • 06:20This update focuses on the data
  • 06:23on overall responses and MRD,
  • 06:25negative responses at the end of
  • 06:2712 months of maintenance therapy.
  • 06:30So as you know,
  • 06:31the trial enrolled patients with
  • 06:33newly diagnosed transplant eligible
  • 06:34multiple myeloma with good performance
  • 06:37status and preserved kidney function.
  • 06:39Patients were randomized in one to one
  • 06:42fashion to either old standard of care,
  • 06:44RVD or they daratumumab CD.
  • 06:4638 monoclonal antibody in combination
  • 06:48with standard RVD triplet.
  • 06:50After four cycles of induction
  • 06:51therapy patients went on to
  • 06:53receive autologous stem cell transplant.
  • 06:56This was followed by two more cycles of
  • 06:59consolidation therapy with the same regiment.
  • 07:01Followed by REVLIMID maintenance as a
  • 07:03single agent as per standard of care.
  • 07:06Versus daratumumab REVLIMID combination
  • 07:08as maintenance strategy and as
  • 07:10you can see with ongoing therapy,
  • 07:12responses depend at the end of 12 months
  • 07:15of maintenance with Dara, RVD regimen.
  • 07:1763% of patients achieved stringent
  • 07:19complete responses,
  • 07:20and this was significantly better
  • 07:21as compared with RVD triplet and in
  • 07:24general response rates and depth of
  • 07:26responses were greater with Dara,
  • 07:28RVD regimen at all treatment time points,
  • 07:31and the same is true for the sustained
  • 07:34MRD negativity lusting for greater
  • 07:36than six months and greater than.
  • 07:3812 months with RVD regimen compared
  • 07:41to the triplet.
  • 07:44The 24 months progression free survival
  • 07:47and overall survival data are reported
  • 07:50and at this time point and follow up.
  • 07:53These are not significantly
  • 07:55different statistically,
  • 07:55between the two arms, however,
  • 07:58predicted PFS appears promising.
  • 07:59As you can see, the overall survival
  • 08:02curves are overlapping, however,
  • 08:04more more time and follow up is required
  • 08:07for further read out of the data.
  • 08:10With regard to treatment,
  • 08:12emerging adverse events,
  • 08:13the hematologic toxicity.
  • 08:15Of grade three and four
  • 08:17degree were higher in Dara,
  • 08:19RVD treatment arm as compared
  • 08:21to the RVD triplet.
  • 08:22Other non hematologic toxicities or also
  • 08:25slightly higher compared to the RVD triplet,
  • 08:28especially the upper.
  • 08:29Story infections were higher with
  • 08:31quadruplet versus triplet combination,
  • 08:32however, when it comes to grade 3.
  • 08:35Four pulmonary side effects
  • 08:37such as severe pneumonia,
  • 08:38they were not statistically
  • 08:40significantly different,
  • 08:41so this regimen based on
  • 08:43this face to randomize study,
  • 08:45offers a very potent
  • 08:47frontline induction regimen.
  • 08:48Which has been adopted in clinical
  • 08:50practice as their reasonable
  • 08:52frontline regiment for newly
  • 08:53diagnosed patients who are transplant
  • 08:55eligible with multiple myeloma.
  • 08:57Next I would like to highlight the
  • 09:00updates of the Forte trial presented
  • 09:03by Doctor Francesca Gay from Italy.
  • 09:06As you know,
  • 09:0840 trial randomized 474 patients with
  • 09:10newly diagnosed multiple myeloma.
  • 09:13These were transplant eligible an
  • 09:15younger than 65 years of age and they
  • 09:19were randomized to one of the three arms,
  • 09:23either carfilzomib,
  • 09:24cyclophosphamide,
  • 09:24dexamethasone or carfilzomib REVLIMID.
  • 09:26Dexamethasone followed by transplant.
  • 09:28Or carfilzomib REVLIMID dexamethasone
  • 09:30for 12 cycles without autologous stem
  • 09:32cell transplant and at the randomization.
  • 09:35Part 2 patients with randomized to
  • 09:37either single agent REVLIMID as per
  • 09:40standard of care or combination of
  • 09:42carfilzomib produce some inhibitor with
  • 09:45REVLIMID as part of maintenance therapy.
  • 09:48And at this 45 months of median
  • 09:50follow up they sustained MRD negative
  • 09:53complete responses for KRD 12 CRV
  • 09:57with transplant was 68% and KRD
  • 10:00412 cycles without transplant or
  • 10:0254% and the same is true for the
  • 10:06progression free survival data
  • 10:08which favors the KRD plus autologous
  • 10:11stem cell transplant at 78% and
  • 10:14the next best is KRD 12 cycles.
  • 10:18Where is carfilzomib,
  • 10:20cyclophosphamide dexamethasone is inferior.
  • 10:23And this data present overall very
  • 10:25good partial response rates for the
  • 10:28time point of randomization Part 2.
  • 10:30As you can see the very good partial
  • 10:33risk responses on the order of 9694%
  • 10:36and what was observed is that MRD
  • 10:38conversion rate from MRD positive to
  • 10:40negative was significantly higher
  • 10:42among patients who received carfilzomib
  • 10:45REVLIMID combination for maintenance.
  • 10:47The overall survival curves here are
  • 10:49really striking for both KRD with
  • 10:52transplant as well as KRD 12 regimen
  • 10:54and slightly inferior for carfilzomib
  • 10:57cytoxan Barbara Cytoxan regimen.
  • 10:59So overall,
  • 11:00this data show that carfilzomib REVLIMID
  • 11:03dexamethasone induction is a very
  • 11:05potent regiment for frontline therapy
  • 11:07for patients with newly diagnosed
  • 11:09multiple myeloma who are transplant eligible.
  • 11:12Specifically,
  • 11:12KRD improved with transplant,
  • 11:14improved progression free survival
  • 11:16as compared to the other carbs.
  • 11:19And the responses were deeper and depend
  • 11:22with continuous KRD maintenance regimen.
  • 11:25Next I would like to highlight
  • 11:27the report on the
  • 11:29elderly non transplant eligible patients
  • 11:32with newly diagnosed multiple myeloma.
  • 11:35The phase three term Alene trial out of
  • 11:39Europe presented by Doctor Thierry Facon
  • 11:42who presented the data on this study
  • 11:45where 705 patients were randomized to
  • 11:48either exacum Abe REVLIMID, dexamethasone,
  • 11:51triplet combination versus placebo.
  • 11:53REVLIMID. Dexamethasone doublet
  • 11:54combination in this transplant ineligible.
  • 11:57Elderly population.
  • 11:58And the study demonstrated median
  • 12:01progression free survival of
  • 12:03significantly improved to 35 months
  • 12:05compared to 21 months in the triplet
  • 12:08versus the tablet RRD combination.
  • 12:10And this translated into deeper.
  • 12:13Higher rates of deeper responses
  • 12:15in the form of higher rate of very
  • 12:18good partial response as well
  • 12:20as higher rate of complete.
  • 12:22An stringent complete remissions
  • 12:24SOA based on this data exactly.
  • 12:26My problem in Texas Methadone appears
  • 12:28to be a reasonable frontline regiment
  • 12:30for elderly newly diagnosed subjects
  • 12:32who are ineligible for transplant,
  • 12:34and it provides a convenient way of
  • 12:37all oral combination which may be
  • 12:39particularly relevant in the covid era.
  • 12:42And finally,
  • 12:43I would like to highlight some of
  • 12:45the preclinical data which were
  • 12:47presented during scientific session,
  • 12:49first out of Mayo Clinic Doctor
  • 12:52Bakes Eagles experience,
  • 12:53who presented the role of dichro gut
  • 12:55microbiome in shaping myeloma evolution.
  • 12:58In this study,
  • 12:59they used VK mix transgenic mice
  • 13:01which spontaneously developed
  • 13:02democracies and myeloma.
  • 13:04The first observation was out of Italy,
  • 13:07where they observed that the
  • 13:09rate of progression to myeloma
  • 13:10was significantly delayed.
  • 13:12In the pathogen, free vivarium,
  • 13:14and so Mayo Clinic,
  • 13:16Arizona joined forces with Jackson
  • 13:17Labs and Debrided this Miz and
  • 13:20subsequently transplanted them with
  • 13:22primary myeloma samples and they
  • 13:24treated mice with antibiotics or not.
  • 13:26And they observed significant
  • 13:28percentage increase in survival
  • 13:30of mice treated with antibiotics
  • 13:33as compared with the control.
  • 13:35Later they identified that Prevotella,
  • 13:37one of the microorganisms in the gut
  • 13:41microbiome significantly impacted
  • 13:42the burden of multiple myeloma.
  • 13:45So this data hypothesize that the
  • 13:47certain micro bacteria in the gut
  • 13:50microbiome such as prevotella Trib,
  • 13:53actor bacteria, Bacteroides,
  • 13:54and Clostridia, can provide uncontrolled.
  • 13:56Stimulation of the TH.
  • 13:5817 responses and regulatory T cell
  • 14:01responses and this signal from got
  • 14:03may translate into increased child 17.
  • 14:06Another immune changes which further
  • 14:08promote growth of myeloma cells and
  • 14:10progression of disease and this
  • 14:12concept provides important Ave for
  • 14:14the therapeutic interventions for
  • 14:16prevention of disease and finally
  • 14:18elegant work presented by Doctor Irene
  • 14:20Ghobrial of Dana Farber who performed
  • 14:23single cell RNA sequencing on the
  • 14:25spectrum of specimens from healthy
  • 14:27volunteers to M Gus to smoldering myeloma.
  • 14:30Two full blown clinical multiple myeloma
  • 14:33and highlighted the composition and
  • 14:36evolution of immune microenvironment
  • 14:37changes during which with time and
  • 14:40progression of disease there is
  • 14:42significant increase in the numbers
  • 14:44of regulatory T cells as well as
  • 14:47increased percentage of NK cells
  • 14:50that predominantly express CX,
  • 14:52CR4 and CX3 CR,
  • 14:53as well as increased subsets of CD16
  • 14:55monocytes and this data provides
  • 14:58significant background through
  • 14:59which one could design immune
  • 15:02therapeutic interventions to possibly
  • 15:04eradicate irregular.
  • 15:05Regulatory T cells and other
  • 15:07immune interventions in order to
  • 15:09prevent the disease progression.
  • 15:10So with that I will stop and would
  • 15:13ask Doctor Terry Parker to highlight
  • 15:15the updates on relapse refractory
  • 15:17multiple myeloma Andale amyloidosis.
  • 15:19Thank you. Thank
  • 15:23you to Talia.
  • 15:52Unless you get the top.
  • 15:59I will be reviewing updates
  • 16:04from ASH and relapse refractory
  • 16:10multiple myeloma anael Android.
  • 16:15I have no disclosures.
  • 16:16There are multiple abstracts this year
  • 16:19in relapsed refractory multiple myeloma.
  • 16:21They range from new combinations
  • 16:23of FDA approved agents to immuno
  • 16:25therapies with antibody drug,
  • 16:27conjugate San, bispecific,
  • 16:28T cell engager's.
  • 16:30I will start by reviewing two
  • 16:32abstracts utilizing currently
  • 16:33FDA approved agents in selinexor.
  • 16:35An easy Texas map.
  • 16:37Stamp was a phase one B2 clinical
  • 16:39trial that evaluated varying doses
  • 16:42and dose schedules of selinexor,
  • 16:45pomalidomide and dexamethasone.
  • 16:46Primary objective of the trial which
  • 16:49identify the recommended phase two dose
  • 16:52and evaluate the overall response rate.
  • 16:5465 patients were accrued 20
  • 16:56at the recommended phase.
  • 16:58Two dose.
  • 16:59The meeting number of prior therapies
  • 17:02was three and 75% of patients
  • 17:04were refractory to Lenalidomide.
  • 17:06The table here illustrates the very.
  • 17:08Doses of weekly selinexor with the
  • 17:11recommended phase two highlighted in red,
  • 17:13which ends up being 60 milligrams of
  • 17:16selinexor weekly comma, 4 milligrams.
  • 17:1821 out of 28 days and X 40 milligrams weekly.
  • 17:23The overall response rate was 54.3% in
  • 17:25palm naive patients with progression
  • 17:27free survival of 12.3 months.
  • 17:30There overall response rate decreased
  • 17:32to 35.7% and those that were
  • 17:34Palmer factory in patients dosed
  • 17:36at the recommended phase two dose.
  • 17:39The overall response rate was 60%
  • 17:41treatment related adverse events
  • 17:42were similar to what has been
  • 17:44seen with selinexor in Palm.
  • 17:46These included nausea,
  • 17:47mild depression and fatigue.
  • 17:48I chose to highlight this trial as
  • 17:51it presents an all oral regimen
  • 17:53which is appealing to our patients,
  • 17:55especially in the relapse refractory setting.
  • 17:57I also wanted to point out the different
  • 18:00selinexor dosing compared to the storm trial,
  • 18:02which was 80 twice a week and
  • 18:04the Boston clinical trial,
  • 18:06which was 100 milligrams weekly.
  • 18:08There was an improved overall response rate.
  • 18:10Free survival compared to historical
  • 18:13data with palm index which is
  • 18:1531% informance respectively.
  • 18:16In patients refractory to
  • 18:19Lenalidomide and worked as a matter.
  • 18:21Doctor Martin presented at the interim
  • 18:23analysis from the Akuma trial patients
  • 18:26were eligible for this trial if they
  • 18:28had one to three prior lines of therapy.
  • 18:30No prior history of carpal zenmap,
  • 18:32and we're not refractory to anti CD 38.
  • 18:36302 patients were randomized to
  • 18:37receive isatuximab carfilzomib dex
  • 18:39versus carfilzomib dex with the
  • 18:41primary endpoint of progression free
  • 18:43survival and secondary endpoints
  • 18:44of overall response.
  • 18:46VGP RCR emoji negativity rates from
  • 18:48those not familiar East Texas map is
  • 18:51an IgG one monoclonal antibody against CD.
  • 18:5338 minimal residual disease was assessed
  • 18:55for this trial in the bone marrow aspirates.
  • 18:59If patients who achieved at least Avicii
  • 19:01PR by next generation sequencing at
  • 19:0310 to the minus mix sensitivity level.
  • 19:06Yeah, central lab.
  • 19:08The best overall response was 86.6%,
  • 19:11with 72.6% of patients achieving
  • 19:13AVGPR and 39.7 as CR.
  • 19:16In these attacks,
  • 19:17map ARM MRD negativity rates
  • 19:19were 41.4% compared to 22.9%.
  • 19:22The CR rate of 39.7% was felt to
  • 19:25be under estimated given Eastern
  • 19:27text mode interference.
  • 19:29Therefore, for 27 patients with an ear,
  • 19:32see are defined as a positive
  • 19:36immunofixation for IgG cap on I.
  • 19:39Or potential CR were evaluated.
  • 19:40The Anaspec 15 of the 27 were
  • 19:43found to be M protein negative.
  • 19:45Increasing the CR rate to 45.8%.
  • 19:49So talking points from this
  • 19:50trial without the combination of
  • 19:52East Texas map carfilzomib index
  • 19:54resulted in improvement in overall
  • 19:56response rate CR V GPR in Aberdeen.
  • 19:59Negativity rates had an
  • 20:00impressive CR rate of 45 point 8%.
  • 20:03Again in patients with one to three
  • 20:05prior lines of therapy and MRD,
  • 20:08negative negative CR rate of 24%.
  • 20:10MRD negativity in both arms was
  • 20:12associated with a longer progression,
  • 20:14free survival and the potential
  • 20:16to achieve MRD negativity,
  • 20:17which should be independent of
  • 20:19adverse prognostic characteristics.
  • 20:20Catches ISS stage three disease.
  • 20:22We don't involvement or a gain of 1 Q 21.
  • 20:26And moving on to the Immunotherapy's
  • 20:29Doctor Kumar presented first in
  • 20:31human phase one trial of MEDI 2228,
  • 20:33which is an antibody drug conjugate
  • 20:36that targets the extracellular
  • 20:38domain of human be CMA.
  • 20:39The primary endpoints were
  • 20:41safety and tolerability.
  • 20:42The trial enrolled 82 patients
  • 20:4441 in the expansion.
  • 20:46Copart two patients had great for
  • 20:48thrombocytopenia at the 0.2 mix perchik dose.
  • 20:51Therefore, the maximum tolerated dose
  • 20:53was 0.1 for mixer cake given Q three weeks.
  • 20:56Treatment related adverse events
  • 20:58included photophobia.
  • 20:59Thrombocytopenia rash dry on pleural
  • 21:01effusion at the maximum tolerated dose,
  • 21:03the overall response rate was 66% with
  • 21:06the duration of response at 5.9 months.
  • 21:09Unlike the currently FDA approved
  • 21:11ADC of Blanton map,
  • 21:12no Keratopathy was observed.
  • 21:14However,
  • 21:14photophobia credit 60% of patients at
  • 21:17the 0.1 four make for kiddos with a
  • 21:20median time to onset of two months,
  • 21:23which is roughly 2 cycles.
  • 21:25This did improve in 37% of
  • 21:27patients and resolved in for.
  • 21:29Is holding up the medication
  • 21:31this agent is moving forward,
  • 21:33looking at varying adjusting schedules.
  • 21:36They must pass it.
  • 21:37Ash this year was for the
  • 21:39bispecific T cell engager's.
  • 21:41This chart is adapted from 1% in by
  • 21:44Doctor Chary during his educational
  • 21:46session on you know, therapies.
  • 21:47Here.
  • 21:48I have listed all the bytes
  • 21:50that RBC may targeted that were
  • 21:52presented at this year's ASH.
  • 21:54Therefore,
  • 21:54oral abstracts and one poster
  • 21:56do just time constraints.
  • 21:57I will be just talking about to Clifton AB,
  • 22:01which had the largest patient accrual.
  • 22:04So as mentioned to custom AB is
  • 22:06ABC May CD three byte 84 patients
  • 22:09received an Ivy dose with 44
  • 22:11receiving subcutaneous dosing.
  • 22:13The median number of prior treatments
  • 22:16for these patients were six and
  • 22:1881% were triple class refractory.
  • 22:20By that I mean they were refractory
  • 22:22to an image of proteasome inhibitor,
  • 22:25an anti CD 38 monoclonal antibody.
  • 22:27Step up Justin was utilized prior
  • 22:29to the first full dose to decrease
  • 22:32the risk aside entirely syndrome.
  • 22:34Notice TRS in subsequent slides,
  • 22:36adverse events and no see Russ did
  • 22:39occur in 55% of patients with the
  • 22:41Ivy dose and in 50% receiving the
  • 22:44subcutaneous dose with the median time
  • 22:46to onset of one to two days respectively.
  • 22:49However, no Grade 3 events were noted.
  • 22:52Neurotoxicity hurting 5%
  • 22:53with two Grade 3 events.
  • 22:55Injection site reactions in 32 and there
  • 22:57was one death attributed to pneumonia.
  • 23:00The recommended phase two dose based on
  • 23:02setting safety advocacy and pharmacokinetics.
  • 23:04Is 1500 micrograms per kilogram at this test,
  • 23:07the overall response rate was 73%,
  • 23:10as outlined here,
  • 23:11with the median time to responsive one month.
  • 23:15So again, take home points.
  • 23:16The recommended phase two dose moving
  • 23:19forward will be 1500 micrograms
  • 23:20per kilogram weekly, subcu.
  • 23:22This was a heavily pretreated
  • 23:24patient population,
  • 23:25as 39% work at refractory,
  • 23:27and in this patient population that
  • 23:29overall response rate was 73%,
  • 23:31which is very encouraging with 23% CR
  • 23:33and 55% VG PR at the recommended phase,
  • 23:36two dose eat at the 11 evaluable patients
  • 23:39were energy negative and there's a
  • 23:42potential for durable responses as
  • 23:4415 out of 16 patients were alive.
  • 23:46No progression at the median
  • 23:48follow up at 3.9 months.
  • 23:50The other two by specifics that
  • 23:52I would like to highlight include
  • 23:55a bispecific targeting STR.
  • 23:57H5 which stands for St receptor
  • 23:59homolog 5 which is a type one membrane
  • 24:02protein expressed on plasma cells with
  • 24:05near 100% prevalence for myeloma.
  • 24:07So Savasta map is this bispecific
  • 24:10antibody that targets approximately
  • 24:11the domain of FCR H5 in C3.
  • 24:14Given Ivy Q,
  • 24:15three weeks again with one step up,
  • 24:18dose 53 patients were accrued
  • 24:20with 51 being a valuable.
  • 24:22And 21% of now had prior PC may
  • 24:25directed their adjusting schematic
  • 24:26is illustrated here and the maximum
  • 24:29tolerated dose was not reached.
  • 24:31Therefore,
  • 24:31dose escalation is on going in
  • 24:34this trial safety to note 76%
  • 24:36of patients did have CR,
  • 24:38S 28% had another event which
  • 24:40occurred in the setting of CR S
  • 24:43and 23% infusion related reaction
  • 24:45in individuals who received at
  • 24:473.6 milligrams step up.
  • 24:48This at least a 20 milligram full dose.
  • 24:51The overall response rate was.
  • 24:5353% there was a 63% overall response
  • 24:56rate in patients who had received
  • 24:59prior PCMI directed therapies.
  • 25:02So this represents a new
  • 25:03target for multiple myeloma,
  • 25:05with the maximum tolerated
  • 25:06dose not being reached.
  • 25:08Importantly,
  • 25:08Seeress did occur and 76% of patients,
  • 25:11but there was only one grade three event,
  • 25:14which was an elevated transaminase
  • 25:16that resolved encouragingly responses
  • 25:18were observed in patients who
  • 25:19had prior be CMA as we will need
  • 25:21therapies for patients who progress
  • 25:23after car T and Adcs responses
  • 25:25were seen irrespective of target
  • 25:28expression levels in patients
  • 25:29that have been assessed to date.
  • 25:31The last by specific is till cotton
  • 25:34AB which binds GPRC 5D which stands
  • 25:37for G protein coupled receptor family.
  • 25:39See Group 5 member in D which is an
  • 25:42orphan receptor whose transcript is
  • 25:44expressed in primary myeloma cells.
  • 25:46This again was a phase one dose
  • 25:49escalation study to identify
  • 25:50the recommended phase.
  • 25:52Two dose then rolled 157 patients.
  • 25:54102 received an Ivy dose
  • 25:56and 55% cutaneous dose.
  • 25:57The dose in schematic is outlined
  • 26:00here with the highlighted in green.
  • 26:02Being the recommended phase,
  • 26:04two dose of 405 micrograms per
  • 26:06kilogram and looking at key safety
  • 26:08side of Henry Lee syndrome as seen
  • 26:10in 68% of patients but no grade
  • 26:13three at the recommended phase,
  • 26:14two dose T styles duration 38 an
  • 26:17injection site reaction in 21.
  • 26:19The overall response rate was
  • 26:2069% of the recommended phase.
  • 26:22Two dose, and 200 Tupac
  • 26:24refractory patients did respond.
  • 26:25The medium kind response was
  • 26:27one month similar to what's been
  • 26:30shown with other BI specifics.
  • 26:32Take her messages for this trial.
  • 26:34Is that again,
  • 26:35this represents another two new target
  • 26:37in my lumbar for advice specific,
  • 26:39it is a subcutaneous dose which
  • 26:41may allow for Q two week dose sing,
  • 26:43which would be more patient,
  • 26:45convenient as the other bytes I've
  • 26:47discussed are all weekly dosing.
  • 26:49Again, responses were observed
  • 26:50in heavily pretreated patients,
  • 26:51including those where pepper
  • 26:53factory and there's a possibility
  • 26:54of durable responses as there was
  • 26:56no progression at the medium,
  • 26:58follow up at 3.7 months and they know.
  • 27:02Have a duration of response
  • 27:04that's over two years.
  • 27:06The time remaining I'll just quickly
  • 27:08touch upon three trials for a lamb alloy,
  • 27:11two in the frontline setting
  • 27:12and one in relapsed refractory.
  • 27:14The Andromeda's trial was a phase
  • 27:16three randomized trial for newly
  • 27:19diagnosed Ale Android patients.
  • 27:20Trainer idiot patients were
  • 27:22randomized to receive cyber deed.
  • 27:24Cytoxan process of dexamethasone
  • 27:26plus or minus daratumumab which
  • 27:28is a CD 38 monoclonal antibody.
  • 27:31The primary endpoint of this trial was met,
  • 27:34which was haematological CR at
  • 27:3656.9 versus 18%.
  • 27:38I want to evaluate the impact of
  • 27:40achieving a deep reduction in serum
  • 27:42free light chains on a composite
  • 27:44endpoint of major organ deterioration
  • 27:46progression free survival in order
  • 27:48to evaluate at the production the
  • 27:50evaluated a involved free light
  • 27:52chain of less than 20 milligrams
  • 27:54per liter and the difference between
  • 27:56the involved versus uninvolved free
  • 27:58light chain of less than 10 and what
  • 28:01they showed it is patients with in
  • 28:03the daratumumab arm achieved all of these.
  • 28:0671.3% of patients had an involved.
  • 28:08Reaching less than 20 and 65.6% had
  • 28:11the difference being less than 10.
  • 28:13This resulted in improved major organ
  • 28:15deterioration progression free survival,
  • 28:17which is illustrated in the graph here.
  • 28:20So conclusion for this trial.
  • 28:22The addition of daratumumab decide
  • 28:24where D resulted in improvement in
  • 28:27haematological response utilizing
  • 28:28a variety of measurements.
  • 28:30This resulted in improved rates of
  • 28:32cardiac in renal organ response.
  • 28:34In addition,
  • 28:35haematological progression was
  • 28:36improved 23 versus 47% and rates
  • 28:39of cardiac arrhythmia failure will
  • 28:41also improve with the addition
  • 28:43of daratumumab at 3% versus 13%.
  • 28:45This represents potential and you
  • 28:47standard of care for these patients
  • 28:50without friends. Treatment for Alienware.
  • 28:52The second trial apps for Android is Cal 101,
  • 28:56which is a nail Android 5 World reactive IgG.
  • 28:59One monoclonal antibody.
  • 29:00This was first mentioned at ASH in 2017.
  • 29:02This is a phase two study.
  • 29:04Determine the recommended phase
  • 29:06three dose when given in combination
  • 29:08with cyber DM Part A or with cyber D
  • 29:10plus daratumumab in Part B patients
  • 29:12were started at a dose
  • 29:13of 500 mics per meter squared and
  • 29:15this was escalated to the maximum
  • 29:17tolerated dose with 1000 mics per
  • 29:19meter squared weekly for four weeks
  • 29:21and then every other week there
  • 29:23were no infusion related reactions.
  • 29:24Treatment related adverse events were all
  • 29:27less than grade two and included rash,
  • 29:29nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea.
  • 29:31I've seen here also in patients
  • 29:33with renal involvement had an organ
  • 29:35response defined as a percent
  • 29:37decrease from baseline in 24 hour
  • 29:39approaching area of greater than 30%,
  • 29:41and there was one cardiac response.
  • 29:43I probably MP.
  • 29:44So this compound is moving forward
  • 29:46at the recommended Phase 3 to 7000
  • 29:49mixed per meter squared weekly,
  • 29:51and then times for than every other week.
  • 29:54There are currently two phase
  • 29:55three trials open,
  • 29:56one for male stage 38 patients and
  • 29:59the other for stage 3B patients,
  • 30:01so I'm sure we will be hearing
  • 30:03more about this compound to come.
  • 30:05The last trial in relapsed refractory
  • 30:07Elana Lloyd was with ice attacks
  • 30:09map and this results from the
  • 30:11Southwest Oncology Group 1702 trial.
  • 30:13All patients who have received
  • 30:14at least one prior line of.
  • 30:16Therapy.
  • 30:17And hadn't had one organ system involvement.
  • 30:21Received text messages to 20
  • 30:22minutes per meter squared.
  • 30:24The primary endpoint was
  • 30:25haematological overall response rate,
  • 30:27which was 77% with a one year estimated.
  • 30:30Overall survival of 97% when
  • 30:32your estimated progression.
  • 30:33Free survival of 85%.
  • 30:34The safety and response data was
  • 30:36similar to that previously reported
  • 30:38with Darren to in our monotherapy
  • 30:40in relapsed refractory Elana LA
  • 30:42Justice and provides another
  • 30:44treatment option for these patients.
  • 30:46With that I will finish and pass it along
  • 30:49to doctor Know Far Bar to finish up.
  • 31:03and when the focus for the most
  • 31:06part on car T cell therapies for
  • 31:10relapsed refractory myeloma patients
  • 31:12and then close with a few comments
  • 31:17on autologous stem cell transplant
  • 31:19for the newly diagnosed patients.
  • 31:23So I want to remind everyone that
  • 31:25patients who are we have been
  • 31:28refractory to image producer members.
  • 31:30An anti CD 30 antibodies have extremely
  • 31:33poor prognosis with immigration,
  • 31:35median progression,
  • 31:35free survival of two to six months
  • 31:38and most of them not living past
  • 31:41one year and some terminology to
  • 31:43remind you as those are refractory
  • 31:46to the three classes of drugs or
  • 31:49called triple or factory and those
  • 31:51are refractory to two images.
  • 31:53Two peas and anti clone the anti CD 38
  • 31:57antibodies are called penta refractory.
  • 31:59I'll be using those terminologies
  • 32:02in my next slide.
  • 32:04So the first study I'm going to
  • 32:07be highlighting here is using
  • 32:09the car T cell called Ida cell.
  • 32:12In short,
  • 32:13formerly known as BB 2121 an
  • 32:15If you see here the construct,
  • 32:18it has a binding domain against
  • 32:20the CMA on the tumor cell and the
  • 32:23intracellular domain includes the
  • 32:25costimulatory molecule form 1B B.
  • 32:27This was a phase one study and study design.
  • 32:31Patients underwent local pheresis
  • 32:32and then the cell product was
  • 32:35taken to manufacturing.
  • 32:36And then delivered back to the patient's car.
  • 32:39T cell infusion before the patient
  • 32:42gets the infusion, they get lifted,
  • 32:44depleting therapy with food,
  • 32:46European and cytoxan.
  • 32:47And this is pretty routine
  • 32:49schema for most Corti studies.
  • 32:52In this study there were 62 patients.
  • 32:55Majority of the patients received the
  • 32:571:50 and the 450 million cells per cagey.
  • 33:01This was a heavily pretreated population
  • 33:03with median line of prior therapy of 670%.
  • 33:07Being triple refactoring 27% had high
  • 33:10risk cytogenetics and 37% or high
  • 33:14risk by having extramedullary disease.
  • 33:18So looking at the safety and efficacy,
  • 33:20all patients have cytopenias and this
  • 33:22is from the link for depleting therapy
  • 33:25which is routinely used for Carty.
  • 33:27I'm more focusing going to be
  • 33:29focusing on this CRS decided kind
  • 33:32release in German that I cans,
  • 33:34which is the neurotoxicity we
  • 33:35see with car T cell therapies,
  • 33:38so 75% of the patients had CRS with
  • 33:41about 6% having Grade 3 and above.
  • 33:43In terms of the neurotoxicity,
  • 33:45which can manifest as an several Catholic
  • 33:48picture, but can be as severe as.
  • 33:50Brain edema seizures 34%.
  • 33:53I can't with very rare incidents of
  • 33:59having Grade 3 or above less than 2%.
  • 34:03Infections are very common in
  • 34:05this patient population.
  • 34:07Is we all know and 75% had infections
  • 34:10with 23% being Grade 3 or above.
  • 34:14Now look at the efficacy,
  • 34:16it's quite impressive with an
  • 34:18overall response rate of 76%.
  • 34:21In this relapse population with the
  • 34:23CR rate of 33% at the median Phillip.
  • 34:27And that the response rate was
  • 34:29dose dependent.
  • 34:30So with higher doses they saw a
  • 34:33higher overall response rate and
  • 34:35the median follow up of 18 months.
  • 34:37The great meeting duration of
  • 34:40response was about 10 months and
  • 34:42this was not affected by age,
  • 34:44extramedullary disease stage
  • 34:45and 50% of responders retained
  • 34:47the response at over two years.
  • 34:50This graph here shows you that the
  • 34:54deeper responses actually lead to
  • 34:56longer duration of response with those
  • 34:58with CR exemplified by the blue line.
  • 35:01Here having a median duration of
  • 35:04response of almost 15 months.
  • 35:06The median progression free survival was
  • 35:0988 months with a very impressive meeting
  • 35:13overall survival of 30 four months.
  • 35:16Perhaps these patients were able
  • 35:19to then get further treatments to
  • 35:21lead to this impressive overall
  • 35:23survival in this patient population.
  • 35:25The next Accardi study is the
  • 35:27car to Tud one study,
  • 35:29and this uses a different car T product
  • 35:32called still to sell it 2 bonds to be CMA,
  • 35:34but it has two binding domains.
  • 35:36As you can see here,
  • 35:38and it also uses a four 1B B like
  • 35:41the Ida cell.
  • 35:42This study there was close to
  • 35:45100 patients enrolled with a
  • 35:48median follow up of 12.4 months,
  • 35:51also heavily pretreated population
  • 35:53with the meeting lines of prior
  • 35:56therapy of 687% were triple refractory
  • 35:58with 42% being penta refractory.
  • 36:0123% high recited genetics and
  • 36:0313% and extramedullary disease.
  • 36:07Now let's look at the toxicity of cell
  • 36:09to cell. So very high rates of CRS.
  • 36:11Nearly all patients got this,
  • 36:13but for the most part they were
  • 36:15grade one and grade two with
  • 36:16only 5% having Grade 3 or above.
  • 36:18As you can see,
  • 36:19there is 70% use of totsuzen Maps,
  • 36:21but they were even using the dose
  • 36:24who's map for some of the great
  • 36:26ones which we do sometimes do.
  • 36:27I can't see Neurotoxicity was seen at
  • 36:3016% with two percent Grade 3 or above,
  • 36:33which is similar to the prior study as well.
  • 36:36They do comment on this other nurse
  • 36:39Texas City that is more delayed and also
  • 36:42sometimes not reversible like that.
  • 36:44I can occur in about 12% of the
  • 36:47patients in this involved movement
  • 36:49or neurocognitive changes.
  • 36:50There are investigating this further
  • 36:52in in their subsequent studies as well.
  • 36:54There is 20% of Grade 3 and
  • 36:57above infections an.
  • 36:58Of their 14 deaths,
  • 36:596 or related to sell to sell
  • 37:01what stands out in this study.
  • 37:03It also is that there was a later onset
  • 37:06of CR S with a median of seven days
  • 37:08compared to two and other studies.
  • 37:10They hypothesize this is because of
  • 37:13the timing of the T cell expansion.
  • 37:15Now the efficacy is very impressive,
  • 37:18with an overall response rate
  • 37:20almost 196.9% with the stringent
  • 37:22CR of 67% on high rates of MRD,
  • 37:25negativity responses are ongoing
  • 37:27in 72% of patients.
  • 37:29They have not reached their
  • 37:31median progression free survival,
  • 37:33and they estimated the 12 month
  • 37:35progression free survival at 76%.
  • 37:38As you can see here by the next graph
  • 37:41that the progression free survival
  • 37:43was improved for those patients who
  • 37:46were in deeper response like that.
  • 37:49Sponse as opposed to the very
  • 37:52good partial response.
  • 37:54So.
  • 37:55I've showed you two Carty studies
  • 37:57that have very impressive results.
  • 38:00However,
  • 38:00there is still room for
  • 38:02improvement on car T
  • 38:03cell products.
  • 38:04Of course, not everyone responds.
  • 38:06Not everyone responses deeply,
  • 38:08and we still have significant
  • 38:10toxicity that we need to mitigate.
  • 38:12So not all T cells are created equal as
  • 38:15you move toward the more early T cell,
  • 38:19the T cells in earlier development,
  • 38:21for example, like the steps on memory T cell,
  • 38:24these memory like.
  • 38:26Cells have certain qualities
  • 38:27that make them attractive.
  • 38:29There long lived.
  • 38:30They have ability to self renewal
  • 38:33and in others Carty studies these
  • 38:35memory like T cells correlated with
  • 38:38peak expansion and sustain response.
  • 38:40Additionally,
  • 38:41there's potential for less
  • 38:43toxicity because there's gradual
  • 38:45differentiation into the effectors,
  • 38:46thus more gradual tumor killing
  • 38:49and perhaps less static on release.
  • 38:52So this concept was used in
  • 38:55the next study that PBC MA 101
  • 38:58prime Phase 1 two study.
  • 38:59They use this technology called piggyback,
  • 39:02which preferentially makes
  • 39:03stem cell memory T cells.
  • 39:05It's made with transposons,
  • 39:06which are plasmids instead of lentivirus,
  • 39:08which is what the prior
  • 39:10Carty product we're using,
  • 39:12and this one has a large carrying
  • 39:15capacity so we can deliver
  • 39:17a lot of genetic material.
  • 39:20This too was directed against BCM of course.
  • 39:23So this is the study design.
  • 39:25I don't want to go into detail,
  • 39:27but I want to highlight a few things.
  • 39:30Not only were they looking at
  • 39:32different doses who dose escalation,
  • 39:33but they had the various cohorts
  • 39:35as you can see here.
  • 39:37Now I want to point out that there are
  • 39:39using Lenalidomide in different time points,
  • 39:41not only for anti tumor activity but also
  • 39:44for improvement of T cell functionality.
  • 39:46So what I do on the focus on is the
  • 39:48response in Texas City on the 1st graph.
  • 39:51Do you see different overall response rate?
  • 39:54In different doses and they range from
  • 39:57anywhere 40s to 70% overall response rates.
  • 39:59They did not feel like there was a
  • 40:03dose dependent relationship here.
  • 40:04Thought that we're seeing a good
  • 40:07responses even with low doses
  • 40:09and marked late you see that they
  • 40:12were really low rates of CRS.
  • 40:14It's 17%.
  • 40:15So this exemplifies how a manufacturing
  • 40:18technique can manipulate the T cell
  • 40:21product to optimize the toxicity
  • 40:23and efficacy and potentially bring
  • 40:26this cellular therapy to the
  • 40:28outpatient setting at some point.
  • 40:32There are potential issues with car T cells,
  • 40:35right?
  • 40:35So it takes time to manufacture the cells.
  • 40:38Some patients don't have that time.
  • 40:40You know we see this patient
  • 40:42needs treatment right away.
  • 40:44We can't schedule the Pheresis
  • 40:46in manufacturing and so forth.
  • 40:47Additionally,
  • 40:48the quality of autologous T cells
  • 40:50might be decreased in this relapse,
  • 40:52refractory patient population and
  • 40:54re treatment can be difficult,
  • 40:56sometimes hard to collect enough
  • 40:58cells and be able to expand them.
  • 41:01So this brings us to the off the
  • 41:04shelf Alo 7:15 Carty targeting
  • 41:06the CMA in this Phase one study.
  • 41:10This is the construct here.
  • 41:13What the the two key attributes is
  • 41:15a knockout of CD 52 which allows
  • 41:17for selective room for depletion.
  • 41:19All lymphocytes have CD 52 by
  • 41:21the way and it
  • 41:23also has a knock out of the
  • 41:25TCR gene to eliminate GV HD.
  • 41:28It used a slightly different
  • 41:29regiment for Lymphodepletion,
  • 41:31so it's flu side plus the anti
  • 41:33CD 52 versus Cyan anti CD 52 but
  • 41:36the one I'm highlighting here.
  • 41:38The flu sign anti CD 52 is the one
  • 41:41they're presenting now but there is
  • 41:43potential for maybe a less toxic went
  • 41:46for the cleaning therapy here so also
  • 41:49heavily pretreated population and
  • 41:51almost all the more pent pent Xposed
  • 41:54about half of them had high recited
  • 41:56genetics and 23% and extramedullary disease.
  • 41:58There were 31 patients available for safety.
  • 42:01And they had 47% serious with no grade.
  • 42:04Three. No, I can't.
  • 42:06And no GV HD.
  • 42:08So a very promising toxicity profile.
  • 42:10Again, this is a very good drug that I
  • 42:13think we're going to see more studies
  • 42:16with an more follow up will tell
  • 42:19us more information, of course. Um?
  • 42:22The efficacy of alacarte in 10 patients,
  • 42:26so they had various doses.
  • 42:29There are temptations in the dose Level
  • 42:323 and it follow up of 3.2 months.
  • 42:36The overall response rate was 60%
  • 42:38with a very good partial response
  • 42:42or higher or 40%.
  • 42:44Now on the shift gears,
  • 42:46a little bit to the good old autologous
  • 42:50stem cell transplant for myeloma.
  • 42:53This is an update of the FM 2009 study
  • 42:56that was originally presented in 2017,
  • 43:00so now it's a follow up of almost 90
  • 43:03months just to remind people to phase
  • 43:06three study newly diagnosed patients.
  • 43:09Arm A is looking at testing RVD
  • 43:12induction followed by maintenance
  • 43:14Lenalidomide for one year,
  • 43:16and RB is RVD induction followed
  • 43:19by transplant,
  • 43:20followed by RBD consolidation
  • 43:22and then maintenance.
  • 43:23In the limit for a year so their updated
  • 43:27median progression free survival was
  • 43:3047.3 months in arbutus to transmit arm
  • 43:34versus 35 months in the non transplant arm.
  • 43:38They had very nice overall response.
  • 43:41I'm sorry very nice eight year.
  • 43:44Median overall survival
  • 43:45about 6060% in both groups,
  • 43:46so they were not difference.
  • 43:48There is no difference there and I
  • 43:50just want to highlight that about 1/3
  • 43:53of the patients in the transplant
  • 43:55arm did not relapse after 8 years of
  • 43:58follow up and these are patients that
  • 44:00are not being treated continuously.
  • 44:02They're only getting one year of maintenance.
  • 44:05This is not the practice we do here
  • 44:07in America and I think there's going
  • 44:09to be more information with the US
  • 44:12portion of this study looking at continuous.
  • 44:15REVLIMID and whether that is
  • 44:17going to affect this progression.
  • 44:20Free survival benefit.
  • 44:21Now,
  • 44:21in terms of MRD transplant did improve
  • 44:25the energy negativity rate from 20 to
  • 44:27about 30% and in this graph you see
  • 44:31the progression free survival based
  • 44:33on MRD negative state and the transplant.
  • 44:36So in red you see those
  • 44:38patients who are MRD negative.
  • 44:40While I'm blue there emordi positive.
  • 44:44And you can see that the transplant,
  • 44:47exemplified by the solid line
  • 44:50improved progression free survival
  • 44:52even in the MRD negative patients.
  • 44:55Next study I'm going to highlight
  • 44:57was already presented by
  • 44:58Natalia, but I want to focus on one aspect.
  • 45:01Here is the Forte study.
  • 45:03Not going to go into the design.
  • 45:05This was already discussed,
  • 45:06but one take home messages this
  • 45:09so while you see in the first
  • 45:11graph here the response rate,
  • 45:12the response rates,
  • 45:13and an MRD negative status was similar
  • 45:16in KRD versus kerdi plus transplant.
  • 45:18The one year sustain energy
  • 45:19negativity was higher for the kerdi,
  • 45:21plus transplants as you can
  • 45:23see here in the second graph.
  • 45:26And this translated into improved
  • 45:28progression free survival for all subgroups,
  • 45:30including the high risk patients.
  • 45:32So I think to conclude on on this
  • 45:35section is that transplant is
  • 45:37still a great treatment for upfront
  • 45:40patients who can tolerate it.
  • 45:42And with this I will close my
  • 45:45talking will move towards our Q&A.
  • 45:50Great thank you know far and
  • 45:53thanks everybody for beautiful presentations.
  • 45:55I do not see any active questions.
  • 45:58Doctor up they had an earlier question
  • 46:01which I answered the smoldering
  • 46:03trial date that I presented.
  • 46:05Patients who are newly diagnosed as
  • 46:08opposed to those in long term follow up.
  • 46:11I'd like to hear opinion from
  • 46:14Sabrina what's been your strategy
  • 46:16in terms of managing high risk,
  • 46:19smoldering patients in your?
  • 46:20Practice, thank you to tell you,
  • 46:23I think that's an important question,
  • 46:25and obviously one where
  • 46:26multiple combinations are
  • 46:27being studied. You know, I think with
  • 46:30the data available on Lenalidomide
  • 46:31or Lenalidomide, dexamethasone.
  • 46:32I think I've still had some
  • 46:35pause in terms of the lack of
  • 46:37overall survival data available
  • 46:38in terms of benefit, you know,
  • 46:41I think it's important to acknowledge
  • 46:43that our discussion of treatment in
  • 46:45patients who are asymptomatic is is
  • 46:47very much different than patients
  • 46:49who have active or clinical myeloma.
  • 46:51And so I think the importance of
  • 46:54overall survival benefit is really
  • 46:56important to include in that discussion.
  • 46:58So I would say my practice has
  • 47:01been to discuss the data available,
  • 47:03including the trials that are
  • 47:05looking at different combinations
  • 47:07outside of Lenalidomide,
  • 47:08but I would say in general I
  • 47:11continue to observe most patients.
  • 47:13Thank you, ultimately we do need to
  • 47:16understand more about the biology of
  • 47:18disease of each individual case to
  • 47:20address the prevention of progression.
  • 47:23Another question comes through the
  • 47:25chat question for I would posit
  • 47:27it to Doctor Parker.
  • 47:28How would you view the sequencing and
  • 47:31where should we position car T cells
  • 47:34versus the bispecific antibodies?
  • 47:36Given that the response rates
  • 47:37are quite significant for both?
  • 47:41Yeah, I think that's a very good question.
  • 47:44Very difficult one to answer and also be
  • 47:47interested to hear no cars take as well.
  • 47:50You know currently we don't have any trials.
  • 47:53Obviously comparing head to head
  • 47:54car T versus the specifics and
  • 47:57looking at the BI specifics that are
  • 47:59against BC mayor targeting the CMA.
  • 48:01They do have somewhat similar response rates
  • 48:04an it's but I really think how we position
  • 48:08him is going to come down to one safety.
  • 48:11What is the cytokine release?
  • 48:12What is the neurotoxicity in
  • 48:14these agents and then two is?
  • 48:16Can we move party to the
  • 48:18outpatient setting with these?
  • 48:20Engineer does know for discussed
  • 48:21bites are a little bit maybe a little
  • 48:24bit more user friendly I guess.
  • 48:26Is there off the shelf versus the
  • 48:28Carty has to be manufactured so also
  • 48:31keeping in mind it may come down
  • 48:33to one patient needs therapy now
  • 48:35device specifics that are targeting
  • 48:37other things besides BC MA did have
  • 48:40activity in those patients who had.
  • 48:42Why are car T so it is feasible
  • 48:44that you could do party followed by
  • 48:46a fight with a different targets.
  • 48:48But again I think we need a lot
  • 48:51more data know for what
  • 48:53is your take.
  • 48:53Yeah I think you're right.
  • 48:55I think we're still early.
  • 48:57Unfortunately it's hard to compare
  • 48:58head to head these studies because
  • 49:00some of these are off the shelf.
  • 49:02Some of these need time so it's study to do.
  • 49:05I think one thing to keep in mind is
  • 49:08that bites you have frequent dosing,
  • 49:10whereas Carty is at one time.
  • 49:12Infusion so that's been
  • 49:14attractive for patients.
  • 49:15Also, it's important to remember
  • 49:16that you know for bites you you
  • 49:19need a good indulgence T cells.
  • 49:21So it went in terms of sequencing.
  • 49:23Someone were to sequence.
  • 49:24You want to give some time if someone
  • 49:27gets it Carty and they're getting one for
  • 49:30depleting therapy in their progressing,
  • 49:32giving them a bite is not
  • 49:34going to be very useful.
  • 49:36So waiting a few months for improvement
  • 49:38in their in their counsel lymphocyte
  • 49:40count would be important to remember.
  • 49:42Although I know these patients
  • 49:44are very sick and some treatment.
  • 49:46Thank you Terry and no far another
  • 49:49question from Doctor Gowda.
  • 49:51In the with the advent of BCM a
  • 49:54targeted drug conjugates antibodies.
  • 49:56How do how do we select again BC MA targeted?
  • 50:01Whether we propose using an antibiotic
  • 50:03conjugates or at the CMA cart.
  • 50:06I think to some of this
  • 50:08you already alluded to,
  • 50:10but any further comments?
  • 50:16I again I think it's hard.
  • 50:19I think whenever we choose a
  • 50:21treatment for our patients,
  • 50:23it's looking at the patient looking the
  • 50:25disease and looking at the convenience
  • 50:28and toxicities of the drug and an adjusting
  • 50:30it to them individual preferences.
  • 50:33Another question from Doctor Gorshin
  • 50:35with the updated Griffin data,
  • 50:37does this impact our decision upfront
  • 50:39therapy for high risk disease.
  • 50:41KRD reverses Dara RVD.
  • 50:43I think KRD still remains a very powerful
  • 50:46induction therapy with very good.
  • 50:48Fresh listen with sustain standards
  • 50:50with continued therapy off.
  • 50:52Note when you look at the composition
  • 50:55of patients in the trials,
  • 50:57the port a trial had about 30% of
  • 51:00high risk patients that they all
  • 51:02equally benefited with Dara RVD.
  • 51:04This is a face to randomization
  • 51:07and there were 15% of patients who
  • 51:10harbored high risk cytogenetic profile
  • 51:12and in their forest plots of data
  • 51:14which I didn't present in the slides.
  • 51:17It appeared that as though higher
  • 51:19risks are genetic profile patients.
  • 51:22May not have experienced the same
  • 51:24magnitude of benefit in terms
  • 51:27of deeper responses,
  • 51:29so I would say there seem to
  • 51:32be equally potent regiments.
  • 51:34My own.
  • 51:35Practice preference has been KRD for
  • 51:37high risk patients generally and this
  • 51:40I hear from some other institutions as well,
  • 51:43but again practice patterns very in
  • 51:45more data on the long term follow up
  • 51:48is needed from the Griffin trial to
  • 51:51you know where we don't have yet the
  • 51:54progression free survival benefit.
  • 51:55Eras for the for the four day trial,
  • 51:59we have significantly longer follow up,
  • 52:01so I think both regiments could be
  • 52:04used interchangeably depending on the
  • 52:07practice pattern off the institution.
  • 52:09One question from Doctor Gowda.
  • 52:13At relapse, for instance,
  • 52:15if a patient was previously exposed
  • 52:18to anti BCM, a targeted therapy,
  • 52:20what is the BCM? A expression?
  • 52:23Has this been looked at in the literature?
  • 52:26I would ask either one of the speakers,
  • 52:29but perhaps more so so far.
  • 52:32So I know they are looking at it.
  • 52:35I I don't recall if they published it,
  • 52:37but there's a lot of and they're
  • 52:39also looking at Solomon Soluble.
  • 52:41Be CMA in the blood, but I can't recall.
  • 52:46What's published? Yeah,
  • 52:48I don't believe there is
  • 52:50any published data on this.
  • 52:52To my knowledge.
  • 52:53I know each individual company is
  • 52:55conducting their Olalla Sideclick
  • 52:56preclinical and correlative
  • 52:58studies to examine this,
  • 52:59but not entirely clear yet.
  • 53:03So with that, I think we're
  • 53:05a four minutes after the hour.
  • 53:07Thank you for the excellent
  • 53:09presentations. All of you.
  • 53:11I really appreciate everybody joining.
  • 53:13I hope this was an informative
  • 53:15session and hope to see you all
  • 53:17for the subsequent sessions of
  • 53:19the ash highlights. Thank you.
  • 53:22Have a great day everybody.
  • 53:24Thank you for organizing doctors item.